"Any claim that women are equal to men in combat settings is utterly irrational."

WND ^

[nopardons]

Yep, and I concur. :-)

[nopardons]

Nope, you NEVER apologized to me, on this thread, nor personally. Wanna try that one again ?

[nopardons]

Neither do I, neither do I ! I do NOT want to go to the bathroom in the sand, out in the open, with a jolly horde of comrades, either. :-)

[farmfriend]

It's not one man's opinion. It is a fact that we require men to register and not women.

nowhere, in your post, does he even begin to talk about the actual facts, which are now well know, about the problems of having females in the armed forces; which are NOT isolated incidents.

Duh, I'm not arguing for women in combat. I never have. I have repeatedly said that we are miss treating our men. You have insisted on twisting it into this women in combat issue.

[Happygal]

No farmfriend..the fact remains that you TRIED to Freepmail another poster dissing a person arguing on this thread, calling her a bitch and whatever. You hit the post button as opposed to the private message button.

Apologising for that breach in posting etiquette does not cut the cheese, honey.

Because YOUR intention was QUITE CLEAR.

IF you hadn't made that error, we would not have known that your 'sugar pie' image was laced with an amount of arsenic.


Lets not make this a bitch fest...because you will NOT win, with me. I'm the ULTIMATE bitch when challenged. And THAT'S why I shouldn't be in the military! *L*

[farmfriend]

I had apologized to Happy Gal, not you. You have never apologized for calling me names. If you need an apology for my calling you one, fine. I apologize for calling you a witch...

[wardaddy]

LOL..

[farmfriend]

No farmfriend..the fact remains that you TRIED to Freepmail another poster dissing a person arguing on this thread, calling her a bitch and whatever. You hit the post button as opposed to the private message button.

I don't deny this. But that is not what you post said I did. I'm not trying to make this a bitchfest. I don't portray myself as sugar pie. I've said what I did was out of line. Everyone is entitled to one mistake unless they are dealing with you I guess.

[nopardons]

That's the MOST solophistic drivel, you have yet to post. How do you manage to write such stuff ?

Is there a draft now ?

Have requirements been lowerd, to get females into the academies and into the miliatry ?

Have females become a HUGE problem, in the military, due to pregnacies, prostitution rings, and sexual harassment cases ?

If we are " misusing " our men, by allowing them to serve and fight in the front lines, when there is a war, are you for getting rid of the armed services completely ?

I haven't " twisted " a single word; you can't debate, are incapable of posting anything, as refutation, except some piece of KOOKOID junk, written by some whack job.

You keep talking about " fairness ". Only children use that rubric. Is it FAIR, that men can't give birth ? Is it FAIR, that men have stronger upper body strength than women do ? Is it FAIR, that the physical differences, between males and females make each more suited to certain jobs / passtimes , than others ? Physical , mental, and pyschological differences matter and make men and women more capable of doing certain things ( such as military work ); which you and the author of that junk take into considerattion.

[bellevuesbest]

#99 has got to be a candidate for post of the night.

[wardaddy]

Looks like the gals on my side of this rather contentious topic all acquitted themselves very well here tonight.

I salute all of you.

Tonight is one of my take care of the baby nights....my wife is sleeping but my 4 month old is doing the "I want my enfamil now dammit!!" crescendo and so I'm outta here. The 3 year old Tasmanian devil will be up in 4 hours as well bright eyed and bushytailed.

So this middle aged male chauvanist is going to have to retire to tend to my "manly" duties...lol....I'm sure he'll have a poopie waiting for me as well.

Good night to all...it's been fun.

[nopardons]

You apologized to a person, whom you didn't attempt to impugne; yet, she sees through all of the gobble-de-gook, hedging, backstepping, and lies. " WEENIE " isn't the same as bitch. You'r only sorry that you've been caught out and that you are inable to confront me, or anyone else, with any sort of coherent,cogent,reasoned refutation.

Sorry, dear, stacked up with the likes of happygal and me, you fall far short of female " warriors " of any stripe.

[nopardons]

Good night , dear friend. Kiss the wee one, for me and I hope that his elder brother is a " good boy ", when he wakes. Well, I can " hope", can't I? LOL

[Happygal]

I don't deny this. But that is not what you post said I did

Sugar..you are floundering around in the dirt here. Admit it..you completely f*cked up. AND now the whole thread knows you are duplicitous...can't argue the facts on the thread so have to go and bolster support from the rear by freepmailing other idiots to make them feel important. YOU SURE you aren't a democrat?

[Happygal]

'nite wardaddy...or from Ireland...good morning! :-)

[nopardons]

Go see what I just pinged you to . LOL

[farmfriend]

You can not site "fact" with out sources. You show no data to back up your claims.

Equal risks
If women shared equal risks, Panama would not have resulted in the deaths of 23 men and 0 women (also 0 women injured); and the Persian Gulf practice operations and war would not have led to the deaths of 375 men versus 15 women. For bothwars combined, 27 men died for each woman. but since there are only 9 men in the armed services for each women, then any given man's risk of dying was three times greater than any given woman's.

...Equality is not making women vulnerable by chance when men are made vulnerable by design.

Equal opportunity as officers
Women constitute 11.7 percent of the total military, but 12 percent of the officers. Women receive more-than-equal promotions in the services despite less-than-equal time in the sevices.

Equal pay
Both sexes in the Persian Gulf received $110 per month extra combat pay. The sexes received equal pay despite unequal risks.

Shall I go on or do you understand what I am for now. You have tried to make this a women in combat issue. I am trying to take about equality for men.

The Myth of Male Power
Warren Farrell, Ph.D.
Dr. Farrell taught at the School of Medice at the University of California at San Diego, and also taught psychology, sociology, and plitical science at Georgetown, Rutgers, and Brooklyn College.

[farmfriend]

can't argue the facts on the thread

See post #237 for arguing the facts.

[Happygal]

Read 'em and weep.

[Happygal]

BTW..I hate to get pedantic, but it's cite (not site) and, well you know how medicine should be spelled.