"Any claim that women are equal to men in combat settings is utterly irrational."

WND ^

[narses]

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Riggs said one woman who spoke at yesterday's press conference, Charmaine Yoest, a national advisory board member with the Independent Women's Forum, relayed a recent example involving DACOWITS that illustrated the need for less military feminization.

"On Sept. 10 – the day before those awful terrorist attacks – DACOWITS was discussing lactation and the need for breast-feeding policies within the Army," Riggs said. "This, the day before so many people died" in New York City and at the Pentagon.

"This is no longer a power game where ambitious women can try to advance their careers," Rios said during her speech, "this is a matter of life and death. Any claim that women are equal to men in combat settings is utterly irrational."

Rios cited a recent Royal British Army study that found stark differences between men and women under combat conditions. In one phase of the study, men failed 20 percent of the time to carry 90 pounds of artillery shells over certain distances, she said, adding that women failed "90 percent of the time."

"In a mission simulating wartime conditions, male and female soldiers were asked to carry 60 pounds of equipment while marching 12.5 miles, completing the exercise with target practice. Seventeen percent of the men failed, [as did] 48 percent of the women," she said.

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[Terridan]

Yeah... everybody blast the media, freep them and hometown newspapers, about this very issue!!! I think its beautiful that more and more of us are speaking out and voiceing opinions. Best wishes and stay well!
Signed, a grateful woman who isn't ashamed of admitting that a man is stronger and shouldn't be put in harms way because I want to fight fires or join the military.
(They may not be smarter, but we can't have everything now can we;)

[wardaddy]

LOL...you don't know men just yet do ya?

[wardaddy]

Amen....I see the PC FReeper crowd is still breathing.

[nopardons]

You said exactly that, quoting the person in charge of recruitment.

Please, learn how to THINK !

[WorkingClassFilth]

What the hell is a "masculinist?"

You are neither black not female, yet you advocate men's rights by pushing for females in combat.

Furthermore, your grasp of Isaiah 55:11 is pretty bizarre and totally lacking in providing a definition or interpretation that I have requested.

What ring of the solar system do you inhabit?

[nopardons]

Unfortunately !

There are females and then, there are WOMEN with brains. LOL

[wardaddy]

Well said.

[Terridan]

"At basic training centers around the nation, Aberdeen, Fort Jackson, Fort Leonard Wood and the Great Lakes Training Center, extreme instances of sexual harassment have been reported. At the Great Lakes Center, five instructors were charged with gross misconduct, including throwing a mattress on the floor and ordering female recruits to undress. The only service to avoid sexual harassment problems is the Marines, which segregates the sexes."

As a woman, this is what really PISSES me off... they join the military and start SCREAMING harrassment... Give me a break! Men are men. They don't need some woman always getting offended over stupidity that should have been avoided in the first place. These men have been put under a microscope, afraid to move for fear of getting blasted in the media or by their superiors. Cut the guys some slack, and leave them alone.

[Lorianne]

If you are a female, claim that females should be in the military, without specifically exempting yoursef, then, you are imperically including yourself. Learn some logic !

Again learn to read. I never said females "should be in the military". I exempted myself because I didn't believe I have any skills the military can utilize to their advantage, not because I'm female.

But actually I take that back. I am an architect and if the military could use my specific talents, I'd be happy to serve. I don't think a man could do a better job than me in my specific skills as an architect.

On the battlefield, I'd be useless and therefore, I don't belong there. I happen to believe most women don't belong there, not because they are women, but simply because most women can't meet the physical challenges of front line combat. That doesn't mean they can't be useful in other capacities.

Keep in mind most men in the military aren't in combat, but rather are used in other capacities. My grandfather in WWII was an ace mechanic and was kept well behind enemy lines repairing vehicles the whole war. He never saw combat. It would have been tactically STUPID to place him on the front line. Military commanders aren't stupid. They use people where they are needed most and can do the most good for the overall objective. My grandfather saved more lives doing what he did well.

[wardaddy]

I see we have a bleary eyed on here of a Quiche nature...lol....she writes like my 13 year old in an argument.

I'm trailing the thread.

[farmfriend]

I didn't call YOU names, yet YOU can't control your emotions well enough, on a stupid forum,

Nopardons"You're a weenie. That's the long and the short of it."

Nopardons"You refuse to see that you spew Marist garbage, cling to your delusion, that you're a Conservative, and talk about " fairness ", like a four year old child. "

Nopardons "your comment about pregnant women, makes YOU a chauvanist pig ...You're worse than a " weenie "; you're a selfish baby. "

I rest my case.

[Terridan]

My mom was one, and I just don't understand why I never have had a 21 inch waist!!!
Not fair!!!

[Happygal]

I agree! 99% of women probably wouldn't be qualified to be in 99% of combat positions.

And herein lies the true test of conservatism.
Lorianne..you say 99% of women aren't qualifed for combat positions. But, how do you find the 1%? Through tax payers money, and the lives of men being lost, in finding out if they are 'capable'?

The polls seem to be stacked against women on this instance. The polls are stacked toward women on many other fields.

[farmfriend]

You are neither black not female, yet you advocate men's rights by pushing for females in combat.

I do not push for women in combat. And my quote from Isaiah has nothing to do with it.

A masculinist is an advocate for men's rights just like a feminist supposed to be an advocate for women's rights. I believe that making men bare the burden of combat alone is unfair to the men.

[Lorianne]

No that is NOT what the head of the Selective Service has said. Pleas learn to read for comprehension. He does not advocate that women "should be in the military" simply becaus they are women. He said that we will need women because we we will simply need more people with talents the military can use. Excluding women excludes half the pool of people the military can pick and choose talents from.

I don't like to be rude but you consistently don't comprehend what is being written, not only from my posts but from others, and twist it around to something else and spit it back as the other poster's words. It reflects poorly on you.

[Happygal]

Farmfriend..you aren't resting ANY case. People are well able to read through the argument on this particular topic without having to see that YOU, seemingly, have a personal snit, with another individual.

I for one, am NOT, interested in infantile debating.

I'm a journalist by profession, and can see through bullshit at 100 yards.

[tinacart]

I saw "GI Jane" but I also read "Women in the Military - Flirting with Disaster." It was very scary, and upsetting what our men are having to cope with and overcome just to serve their country. These "women/things" should be ashamed of themselves!!! (Speaking here of the pawns of the commie/feminazis in our country, using these zombies to further their sick/evil agendas!!!)

[annyokie]

Don't respond to farmfriend, she is a nice person but all screwed up on her skewed biblical interpretations IMHO.

It ain't worth the typing.

[wardaddy]

There is hardly a FReeper on this forum less worthy of DU than nopardons. If you can't handle the heat then you ought to stay out of the kitchen.

You claim to be a masculinist or whatever that is....then why are you running from a FReeperette who's got your number homeo?

Just keep on defending your indefensible argument that women belong in combat since hombres have to do it and fair is fair....

While you're at it...round up some genuine FReeper combat vets and see if they climb onboard. I mean the real deals...not somebody who finagled a CIB as an REMF or sat offshore on a ship but find me a groundpounder who made it thru the valley of the shadow of death.

I'll be waiting. The couple of dozen I know here and not to mention the couple of score I know in real life do not share your view at all....including several extended family members of mine.

[Terridan]

Re: your post #67...
Very well stated!!! That is the bottom line, no ifs, ands, or buts!!!
Best wishes, and let's hope more like you speak up!
Terri