[gomaaa]

Try not to align yourself with your Liberal colleagues who have purposefully disregarded the Bible, because evolution has given them reason to ignorantly reject the Book that has been scrutinized by the best scholars for the last 2000 years.

I would also be interested in hearing from you as well on the subject of my current debate with Dataman. Thanks!

[bondserv]

gomaaa,

Thanks for including me in your discussions. I will take the time to go back and read your prior posts this evening.

Your last post to Dataman seems to imply that you take an agnostic position regarding origins. In my opinion, when one only considers the scientific evidences for origins, agnosticism is the only intellectual honest position available. I still know of no one who has all knowledge of the mechanisms of our universe via the scientific method.

The only record of beginnings by a reliable witness, GOD, is not verifiable by the scientific method either. Believers of the Bible are forced to rely on historical evidences for proof of their faith. These types of evidences fall more into the category of judicial proofs, rather than scientific proofs.

Examining a preponderance of the historical evidence to validate reliability of the Biblical texts, travels down a very different road than evidences for evolution. Theologians debate incessantly over exegesis of manuscripts and their translations.

Sir Isaac Newton's research into the Biblical texts of the book of Daniel, led him to come to the conclusion that prophecies contained in the verifiably pre-Jesus documents, which clearly convinced him that Biblical prophecy verified authenticity of Jesus' claims. Newton became a believer in Jesus Christ by mathematical means, via probabilities related to Daniel's prophecies. One can quickly find Newton's commentary on the Internet regarding this.

Jesus' authenticity for the believer necessitates our desire to believe what He shared regarding origins. He clearly said that Adam and Eve were the beginning of mankind, confirming the Genesis account.

Most Biblical students who consider the text in its entirety, take the text literally unless the text clearly sets up the context as allegorical. We have 2000 years of mistakes made by men who took the text to be allegorical when they should have taken it literally i.e. the regathering of the Jews in Israel after 2000 years of being scattered to the ends of the earth (many Christians erroneously believed the Christian Church supplanted Israel in the prophetic text).

We must be careful of considering a Non-linear God, with our linear past, present and future mentality. This applies to the sciences as well! Understanding that God inhabits eternity eliminates most of the confusion that exists today.