[AndrewC]

James Shapiro chat

After the chat, there was a question and answer period which is also informative(that is the source of the quote I posted). You should read the link Dr. Shapiro gives at the beginning of the chat in order to understand his position.

For all of the intelligent breeding of dogs, when all is said and done we end up with a dog, not a cat. It may be a strange looking dog,

but it is still a dog.

[gomaaa]

Well, if we were to keep it up for millions of years, we might well be able to pull something like that off! In the meantime we'll have to settle for demonstrating evolution in organisms that have shorter reproductive cycles.