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No, I don't agree. Everyone sees the same things. One's worldview, however, can lead one to dismiss what's right before one's eyes. And no one's quit the playing field. We simply ignore one obnoxious poster and not because of the points he makes, but because he refuses to learn anything new and he consistently bluffs through being caught out in outright lies (ask him about his problems with the "wildly elliptical" thread from last April. He flat out lied about the genesis of the discussion, even after someone posted the original verbatim). His "points" are codswallop to anyone who spends five minutes on a google search, his tactics (the lies, the misrepresentations, the name calling -- he personally introduced the term "slimer" to these discussions) are trash and his attitude is obnoxious. You can converse with him all you want, but anyone who can't differentiate between "all frogs are amphibians" and "all amphibians are frogs" (from earlier in this thread) is not worth my time.

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Everyone sees the same things.

I would be willing to bet that your "everyone" are on the evol side and "everyone else" is on the other side. The fact that you say you have no world view on this debate is very telling indeed.

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oh...and having gone thru several of these threads as a lurker, insults and obnoxious posts are not limited to the ID side of the debate, and are certainly not limited to gore3000.

[gore3000]

We simply ignore one obnoxious poster and not because of the points he makes, but because he refuses to learn anything new

Continued with the lame attack against me. In this thread you have nothing which I have said. Your friends have done nothing but hurl insults. Insults are not a refutation, facts are refutations, and you resort to insults because you are a sore loser and cannot deny the facts presented to you showing evidence against evolution.

While you and your friends claim that you have refuted my statements numerous times, every time I bring something new, you always say that I have been refuted in some unmentioned thread and of course you and your friends gave such a devastating refutation that none of you can even remember it. You therefore go through hundreds of posts just insulting.

Well your insults and those of your friends prove only one thing: you cannot refute my statements. They prove one thing: I am telling the truth and you are lying. For example in this thread there is numerous statements by me showing tons of Evidence Disproving Evolution . Let's see you show us all which of those statements have been refuted. It was a long thread of some 1,000 posts so you all had plenty of chance for refuting them. Let's see the refutations.