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To: Junior; AndrewC; Dataman
How about archaeopteryx? Is it a bird? Is it a therapod dinosaur?

Seeing that it has perching claws for feet, feathers not scales, that the ankles and teeth can not be derived from a therapod, that it has a bird like breast bone, wings and jaw and that researchers from the Univ of Texas have found birds that supposedly date back 225 million years versus 150 million for archaeopteryx, well if it walks like a bird, flaps like a bird, is dressed like a bird and there were already birds around. I'd go with bird. What do you think it is?

Still there should be millions of examples of transitional forms not just a handful of possibilities. Where are the cogs and the dats. Where are the semi-vertebrates? Why don't they exist today? Why doesn't evolution go backwards as well as forward? Why are there any distinguishable species now? Shouldn't every living creature be a transitional form moving either up down the evolutionary scale?

Nobody has the answers just theories and hypothesis and no way to prove them. Ernst Mayr of Harvard even admits that much.

Still if you would like to point out how archaeopteryx is a transitional form, I am willing to discuss it with you.

Best Regards,
Boiler Plate

388 posted on 03/12/2003 8:18:13 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Boiler Plate
I'd go with bird.

"Dromaeosaurid Archaeopteryx".

"A bird!? Just a bird!?"

389 posted on 03/12/2003 8:27:57 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Boiler Plate
And it would have been classed as a therapod dinosaur (teeth, tail, skull shape, etc.) if it hadn't been for the imprints of feathers in the fossil. Dinosaur prints discovered prior to the 19th century had been attributed to giant birds because they appeared to be, for all intents and purposes, just that.
404 posted on 03/13/2003 3:34:33 AM PST by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Boiler Plate
well if it walks like a bird, flaps like a bird, is dressed like a bird and there were already birds around. I'd go with bird. What do you think it is?

It's the closest thing to a transitional form that they have even though its 75 million years too late.

Why doesn't evolution go backwards as well as forward?

That is the 64 million year question, especially in light of the evo claim that a few mutations are beneficial. If a few are beneficial, the rest are not. Those that are not, the creative and inventive minds assume, die because all non-beneficial mutations must die in order that the theory not be embarrassed.

415 posted on 03/13/2003 5:24:16 AM PST by Dataman
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