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Also, this thread's whole subject seems to be an exercise in defeatism by the fact that all things and their processes, even the "mindless" ones, were at the essence of it all, created. If I understand that, the clues to the Creator are everywhere. If I don't understand that, how can I find bases for deciding such things?

If I outlaw God, then even if I create a model of Devil's Tower with my mashed potatoes, that process was just another act of nature. Nothing more.

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...but of course it wouldn't be; that would be a lie, just as it is a lie to say one can outlaw God.