[balrog666]

Just as I said in #148: "And while that may not make them any less real to the person involved, it limits any real discussion of them to vague analogy and meaningless philosophical noise."

When you rely on analogy, the interpretation is totally subjective.

It seems to me there are real things that are not "sensible" at all, in the conventional sense.

Indeed, although we may disagree about which are which.

They have to be seen and understood from a perspective that is not limited by the constraints of pure physicality, if they are to be seen and understood at all.

If such a perspective exists and produces insight, I'm all for it. But then, that is the question isn't it?

[f.Christian]

How does evolution ---

spontaneous (( out of nothing ))-- morphing (( plastic // rubber )) ... matter and lfe become science // physics ---

silly isn't it !

[betty boop]

If such a perspective exists and produces insight, I'm all for it. But then, that is the question isn't it?

Yep. That be the question, balrog666. I have answered it for myself; I can't answer it for you. You have to do your own work here, assuming you are so inclined. If not, the world keeps on turning regardless, and we all with it in despite.