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Don't know what your beef is and frankly don't give a damn. I am pleased that the folks were indicted by the Bush DOJ and I am sure the President is pleased. What you fail to grasp and many others is that the thread is not about GW but about Grover Norquist and if you can't grasp that then I am indeed the "superior one" since you brought it up.

It seems that some of you Bush Bots can't differentiate supporters of GW and those that would bring him down. Norquists putting GW in the position to be bit in the butt by a none too friendly media in the first place should be enough to have the guy fired. And whether you, nor I, nor any supporter of GW thinks that these photo ops and favors done for the Al Arian family is akin to the Clinton/Dope Dealer pix nor AlGore/Buddhist Temple pix also isn't the issue. What is the issue is that Grover Norquist put "our" President in the position that opponents will love to take capital from.

First of all, the photos with Al Arian were before 9/11.

Second, absent proof that Bush knew Al Arian was on the watch list at the time of those photos, there's not much there other than a hit piece that will be quickly seen as such.

Third, in the face of these current meetings, has there been ANYHTING remotely resembling proof that these meetings and photos caused a change in policy that has benefited these groups or their agenda to the detriment of the United States. Certainly, it did not help Al Arian avoid doing the perp walk.

Furthermore, in the case of the aides Gaffney went after, both of these aides probably went through a VERY rigorous background check by the FBI and Secret Service. We're talking one that is thorough - one that goes pretty far back. Folks they knew in college probably got interviewed (and you can bet things were double-checked in those interviews).

Gaffney has added 2 and 2, and come up with 11.