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Conservatives Fight Over Islam
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 20, 2003 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 02/20/2003 4:19:54 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Conservatives Fight Over Islam

Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com

Thursday, Feb. 20, 2003

WASHINGTON – A fierce, nearly three-week running battle of accusations and counter-accusations between two conservative icons has brought to the front burner a long-festering debate among President Bush’s supporters on how far the White House should go in seeking Islamic support.

Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy and a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration, has accused two White House officials – Ali Talbah and his predecessor Sukhail Khan – of putting President Bush in the company of “people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them.” Gaffney reiterated these charges in his Washington Times column Tuesday.

Gaffney’s initial comment in this flap came at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference on Jan. 31.

His remarks sparked a stinging rebuttal from Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform and one-time confidant of Newt Gingrich when the latter was speaker of the House.

“There is no place in the conservative movement for racial prejudice, religious bigotry or ethnic hatred,” Norquist told Gaffney in a Feb. 5 letter. He went on to accuse his fellow conservative of attacking each of the two White House officials because of their Muslim faith.

Norquist then banished Gaffney from further attendance at his influential coalition meetings that he holds every Wednesday, pending an accepted apology to Tulbah and Sukhail. He added, “It is important that we, as conservatives, stand up against bigotry, racism, and religious hatred whenever it raises its ugly head.”

Gaffney replied with a three-and-a-half page single-spaced letter to Norquist that offered no apology. Gaffney not only refused to apologize but also cited chapter and verse of quotes from radical Islamic fundamentalists (Wahhabists) who had been received cordially at the White House.

He also stressed that he had taken pains to “express distinction between such Islamists, and what is, I believe, the majority of Muslims in this country whom the former [Wahhabists] are determined to recruit, intimidate, and dominate through a variety of techniques.”

The CSP boss took Norquist to task for his involvement with Islamic Institute, through which, Gaffney argued, Norquist and his associates had been instrumental in “promoting and facilitating Wahabbis’ access to the executive and legislative branches of government” and thereby “could prove politically damaging and strategically detrimental to our cause and the well-being of our country.”

Norquist says Islamic Institute “was formed to promote within the Muslim world the fact that the Koran and Islam are perfectly consistent with a free and open society.”

In an interview with NewsMax.com, Norquist said he wrote his letter because the two young White House Muslims whom Gaffney criticized were merely underlings carrying out decisions made by more senior White House officials.

“He decided to single out the kid who was a Muslim in both cases, even though the people making decisions are Presbyterians and Catholics, not Muslims,” the ATR president said.

In his latest column, Gaffney reports that one Muslim representative in a group visiting the Oval Office just days after 9/11, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, had said two days before the attack: “This country is facing a terrible fate. This country stands condemned.”

Why FBI Couldn’t Find Him

When FBI agents visited Yusuf’s home, they were stunned to learn from his wife that he was unavailable because he was with the president.

However, Norquist, while “not vouching for anyone,” said the Muslims who had access to the president passed muster with the Secret Service and the FBI or they wouldn’t have been there.

“If they were a security risk, not if they said something stupid, if they were a security risk or a problem ... the Secret Service would pull them out,” he said.

Gaffney describes as “bizarre” FBI Director Robert Mueller’s decision to speak to the American Muslim Council last year despite that group’s “long record of activities hostile to the Bush administration’s prosecution of the war on terror.”

Walking the sometimes unclear lines between peace-loving Muslim Americans and those who pose a threat is a dilemma symbolized by the bitter dispute between Gaffney and Norquist, two well-known conservatives in the Bush constituency.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: cair; gaffney; norquist; yusuf
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To: TLBSHOW
Todd, I didn't make it anything Remember this?

I think your characterization of Gaffney and the Center's opinion on this issue is completely wrong and your accusations that Bush is a traitor is way over the top.

259 posted on 02/19/2003 6:12 PM EST by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!)
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I guess he's a bush bot now?

161 posted on 02/20/2003 8:54:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Fred Mertz
Quit being so petty and obtuse.

I'm just trying to raise myself up out of the gutter to your level, Fred.

162 posted on 02/20/2003 8:55:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: cyncooper; Fred Mertz
I will give you one more thing from my gift. There won't be a second term for The President and not because of this issue. And you know what it will allso be his fault not mine. And the republicans fault because they are all turning out to be wimps that is why! Another thing from my gift don't expect much to get done that we want either and again that won't be my fault. We may own talk radio but there are forces at work much bigger than talk radio here.

Just an opinion, and oh don't worry I plan to help all I can to make what my gift says wrong. I love this country and I don't want rats taking it over but if we are going to let wimps do our job we won't get anywhere.
163 posted on 02/20/2003 8:56:10 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Howlin; Southflanknorthpawsis
What in the world is happening to everyone?
164 posted on 02/20/2003 8:56:46 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Howlin
He admitted to being a bush-bot, but I told him he wasn't. You, on the other hand, are.
165 posted on 02/20/2003 8:57:26 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: CFC__VRWC; cyncooper; ohioWfan; justshe; Mo1; deport
I have to demand that you back this up


166 posted on 02/20/2003 8:57:34 PM PST by Howlin
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To: cyncooper
I feel bad to see long timers do this..
167 posted on 02/20/2003 8:57:35 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: CFC__VRWC
If you are referring to Sami Al Arian, I have to demand that you back this up.

There's a whole bunch of us who have asked him specifically just that.

Let's see if he answers...

(He won't)

168 posted on 02/20/2003 8:57:40 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: Fred Mertz
"Of course TBLBLOWS knows all about Bush's terrorist friends."

There are pictures, in case you missed that element of the story.

Oh..so these pictures are supposed to convince me...that the number one world leader in the war against terrorism, is REALLY the freind of terrorists.

Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what?

169 posted on 02/20/2003 8:58:50 PM PST by Jorge
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks for sharing. Time will tell.
170 posted on 02/20/2003 8:59:20 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
What in the world is happening to everyone?

I think it's a conspiracy maze. After awhile, no one knows who's who. LOL !!!

171 posted on 02/20/2003 9:00:01 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: cyncooper
I'm sure you're right. Jeez, didn't I just see this movie last night?
172 posted on 02/20/2003 9:00:01 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
What in the world is happening to everyone?

Certain lies cannot be tolerated and the person spreading them needs to be held to account.

173 posted on 02/20/2003 9:00:06 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: TLBSHOW
And you know what it will allso be his fault not mine.

ROFLMAO.....if ONLY he would take your advice!

174 posted on 02/20/2003 9:00:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jorge
Go back to bed George.
175 posted on 02/20/2003 9:01:16 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Just briefly glancing without trying to figure out who started what, or what the argument is about..i get the impression that it boils down to who can criticize the president and who can't without being called a bot? Do I get any points?
176 posted on 02/20/2003 9:01:33 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You mean lie about the president? Me, too.
177 posted on 02/20/2003 9:01:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I feel bad to see long timers do this..

I feel bad seeing the president being called a friend of terrorists.

178 posted on 02/20/2003 9:02:30 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Jeez, didn't I just see this movie last night?

No, last night he said he was a traitor and in bed with terrorists.

Today he says that al-Arian is a friend of Bush's.

179 posted on 02/20/2003 9:03:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jorge
I just made a recommendation. Islamists and other fascists will, however, tell you what to do.

Don't know about that Christian anti-abortion activists comparison. Last I checked, they weren't pulling out all the stops to get their hands on and set off a WMD in this country. Also the Islamists' acts are cheered and supported by millions. Where's the Christian version of the Gaza-Strip dancers when an abortion clinic is bombed?

180 posted on 02/20/2003 9:03:24 PM PST by dagnabbit
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