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To: P-Marlowe
The doctrines of election and predestination are principles that would be impossible for a mormon to believe, because a mormon believes in a FINITE GOD.

Well, first of all, do you or do you NOT believe in these Calvinist principles?

First you say you don't, then you imply you do. Which is it?

And of course we don't believe in a "Finite God." That statement is preposterous.

What we believe in is "free agency." And that is a gift of a loving God.

428 posted on 02/18/2003 7:36:40 PM PST by Illbay (Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy. -- 2 Nephi 25)
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To: Illbay; drstevej; Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Well, first of all, do you or do you NOT believe in these Calvinist principles?

These principles of Divine Election and predestination are not exclusive to Calvinism. They are taught clearly in the Bible. You cannot read the Bible with any sense of honesty and believe that Divine Election and Predestination are not taught there/ These principles are, however, anathema to the LDS Church since they contradict your notions of a finite man/god.

Your god is not powerful enough to even have foreknowledge since your God is riding the time line, just like you and me. Tomorrow is a new adventure for your God. My God has declared the end from the beginning. Nothing suprises my God. My God created Time. My god created every particle in the universe and all the natural laws. It is by His Word that the universe is held together. The universe is not eternal as you believe. The Universe was created by the breath of my God's mouth.

Your God has no power except it was granted to him by the gods before him. Well, Illbay, there were no gods before the One True God. Thus your god has no power at all. Your god does not exist.

You reject the principles of Divine Election and Predestination because you reject the God of the Bible.

Fine, you are in good company. Most people will reject him. But every knee shall bow before Him.

435 posted on 02/18/2003 7:54:50 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Are you ready to meet your "Organizer?")
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