Posted on 01/29/2003 10:51:42 PM PST by Commie Basher
[January 21] Libertarians took part in a major anti-war march in the nation's capital on January 18.
More than a dozen Libertarians carried signs and chanted slogans as they marched with more than 100,000 other demonstrators from the National Mall to the Navy Yards in Southeast Washington, DC.
"We can't let the liberals and lefties be the only ones getting the message out," said Carol Moore, who coordinated the Libertarian effort.
According to the group that organized the rally, A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism), the goal of the march was to show opposition to "[President George W.] Bush's criminal war that seeks to conquer the oil, land, and resources of the Middle East."
Speakers at the march included Rev. Al Sharpton (National Action Network), Jessica Lange (actress), Ron Kovic (author, Born on the Fourth of July), Physicians for Social Responsibility, the Free Palestine Alliance, the New York Youth Bloc, and the Partnership for Civil Justice.
The march included "lots of peaceniks who'd be open to libertarian ideas if anyone ever told them they exist," said Moore.
In Nevada, Libertarians joined more than 500 other protesters at an anti-war demonstration in Reno on January 18.
The rally, sponsored by the Reno Anti-War Coalition, was held at the Manzanita Bowl at the University of Nevada.
Libertarians participated to show opposition to the USA's interventionist foreign policy and to the fact that U.S. troops are stationed in about 100 countries, said Nevada LP State Chair Brendan Trainor.
"We have troops in Iceland. Are we protecting them from Greenland?" he said. "The military shouldn't protect foreign investments."
If some Americans want to topple Saddam Hussein, they should volunteer to fight the Iraqi dictator, as individuals did with the Lincoln Brigade to fight fascism in Spain from 1936-1939, said Trainor.
Protesters at the rally carried signs that said, "American's don't shoot first" and "Peace is patriotic."
Conservatism has gotten surreal, in many ways a mirror image of the PC Left. The same shrill, vitriolic defamations if you disagree (America-hating, as opposed to racist, homophobic). The same defense of the POTUS at all costs. Doesn't matter if Bush balloons the budget, or if Ashcroft tramples civil liberties, we must defend them against the "America haters."
I also bet the substance of my poetry is on par with those champions of free speech...although I suspect their intended work was more on line with what is desposited in my poetry halls.
IT IS TIME THAT SO CALLED POETS ( NOT TO MENTION OTHER ARTISTES) REFRAINED FROM ATTEMPTING TO USE A NONPOLITICAL EVENT, FOR THEIR OWN AGENDAS ! Didn't you read what the " poets " did first ?
Emily Dickenson, though I like her work and know was a far superior poetess, than those modern " poets " named , was a moribund whacked out nuts case. She; however, was a brilliant writer. She wasn't the least political.
Walt Whitman was a VERY poor choice, for this now called off symposium , to use. " LEAVES OF GRASS ", a poetic homoerotic book, used by Slick Willie to seduce women ( HITLERY! and Monica and GOD alone knows who else ), is best left ignored, in the White House, until memory of how his works were used , by an impeached, traitorous, and discredited president dies down. LOL
I'm NOT giving anything up and neither are YOU, by having this superfical symposium cancelled, because lefties wanted to use it as an anti-war protest.
Too bad April Glaspie and the rest of the GHW Bush Administration couldn't communicate that simple message to Sadam, instead of telling him that the Bush administration had "no opinion" in his border dispute.
Do you have the source on this? If I recall correctly, the source was questionable.
Anyway, your response is a non sequitur. It doesn't follow that because the U.S. did or did not say something, that Iraq has the right to invade Kuwait. It doesn't.
I've not bashed any poor grunts. But you should have seen some of the bashing that McCain got from some so-called "patriots" at FR, one of them (on another thread) wishing McCain had died in North Vietnamese captivity, and calling McCain a "traitor to America" simply because he didn't support Bush.
Some FReepers get a vicarious thrill from cheering the military -- unless it's a military man they don't like. I'm not a McCain supporter, but even I never stooped so low in my attacks on McCain as some of the "pro-military flag-wavers" at FR.
How poetic.
Well believe it or not, there is such a thing as inspired literature. That is what the Bible is about, and that is what many historical and scriptural writings are about. But when you politicise this, it harms the whole process--and it even harms the particular religious cause you may have. Separation of State and Religion is revered for just this reason. You don't want your reverends running your country, and you certainly don't want your politicians running your religion...and sometimes, it's hard to tell. That's why America is here, or at least that's what we thought.
Actually, Kuwait crossed it first, albeit underground. They were slant-drilling oil from Iraq, a violation of international law. Nor would they stop when Saddam told them to. Which is the issue Saddam brought up with the US State dept, when he was given the green light to invade.
That's what I read in the European press -- which FReepers routinely hailed for its truthfulness when they were reporting things about Slick that the US press covered up.
They're poets. They were invited.
Naw, they just stink.
Actually, Kuwait crossed it first, albeit underground. They were slant-drilling oil from Iraq, a violation of international law. Nor would they stop when Saddam told them to. Which is the issue Saddam brought up with the US State dept, when he was given the green light to invade. That's what I read in the European press -- which FReepers routinely hailed for its truthfulness when they were reporting things about Slick that the US press covered up.
Before the Gulf War, Iraq claimed that Kuwait was stealing oil by method of horizontal drilling from the Iraqi "Rumaila" oil field.
However, Kuwait claimed that it was not using horizontal drilling to drain the Rumail oil field. Instead, Kuwait claimed that any drilling that they were doing in the area was to extract oil from it's own "Ratqa" oil field.
U.N. surveys of the area before the Gulf War had documented that the Kuwaiti Ratqa oil field was actually a southern extension of Iraq's super-giant Rumaila oil field.
Thus, the Kuwaitis were able to drain some of the Rumaila oil by drilling STRAIGHT DOWN into sovereign Kuwaiti land. In other words -- these sovereign countries SHARED AND STRADDLED THE SAME OIL FIELD.
During the weeks preceeding the Iraqi August 1990 invasion of Kuwait, Kuwait offered to negotiate a sharing or joint development agreement for the Ratqa and southern Rumaila area. Iraq refused to negotiate. Iraq, then invaded Kuwait using the BS "horizontal drilling" charge.
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