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Libertarians Join Anti-War Protests
Libertarian Party website ^ | January 21, 2003

Posted on 01/29/2003 10:51:42 PM PST by Commie Basher

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To: Austin Willard Wright
At least a few of us are left. Jim Rob, to his credit, has not bumped us. It is an entirely different world on FR.

Conservatism has gotten surreal, in many ways a mirror image of the PC Left. The same shrill, vitriolic defamations if you disagree (America-hating, as opposed to racist, homophobic). The same defense of the POTUS at all costs. Doesn't matter if Bush balloons the budget, or if Ashcroft tramples civil liberties, we must defend them against the "America haters."

581 posted on 01/30/2003 10:33:41 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: eaglebeak
I'm a poet also, and I bet I've published in more bathroom stalls then those morons who wanted to abuse their invitation to embarass their hostess.

I also bet the substance of my poetry is on par with those champions of free speech...although I suspect their intended work was more on line with what is desposited in my poetry halls.

582 posted on 01/30/2003 10:34:31 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: eaglebeak
Are you claiming that Ferlinghetty and they other names mentioned are good poets ? If so, that is your opinion; not mine. Are you claiming that they should be subsidized by our government/ that the government is required to give them a venue, from which to rant ? Show me this in the Constitution.

IT IS TIME THAT SO CALLED POETS ( NOT TO MENTION OTHER ARTISTES) REFRAINED FROM ATTEMPTING TO USE A NONPOLITICAL EVENT, FOR THEIR OWN AGENDAS ! Didn't you read what the " poets " did first ?

Emily Dickenson, though I like her work and know was a far superior poetess, than those modern " poets " named , was a moribund whacked out nuts case. She; however, was a brilliant writer. She wasn't the least political.

Walt Whitman was a VERY poor choice, for this now called off symposium , to use. " LEAVES OF GRASS ", a poetic homoerotic book, used by Slick Willie to seduce women ( HITLERY! and Monica and GOD alone knows who else ), is best left ignored, in the White House, until memory of how his works were used , by an impeached, traitorous, and discredited president dies down. LOL

I'm NOT giving anything up and neither are YOU, by having this superfical symposium cancelled, because lefties wanted to use it as an anti-war protest.

583 posted on 01/30/2003 10:37:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ravinson
The border line of Kuwait is a red light. Sadaam crossed it.

Too bad April Glaspie and the rest of the GHW Bush Administration couldn't communicate that simple message to Sadam, instead of telling him that the Bush administration had "no opinion" in his border dispute.

Do you have the source on this? If I recall correctly, the source was questionable.

Anyway, your response is a non sequitur. It doesn't follow that because the U.S. did or did not say something, that Iraq has the right to invade Kuwait. It doesn't.

584 posted on 01/30/2003 10:37:53 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Commie Basher
Ok so you're engaging in reverse RAT demogaugery.

The RATS say: If we ask for a 14% raise in spending for our pet pork project and we only get a 10% increase, that's a cut in funding.


Commie Basher says: (I'm paraphrasing his line of thought to make an example. I am NOT putting words into his mouth!)If discretionary spending has remaind flat for 3 of the last six years and the POTUS doesn't slash that spending. He's ballooning the budget!


Either way it's a bunch of spin.
585 posted on 01/30/2003 10:38:57 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: Long Cut
"I am almost sick to my stomach to read the wanton bashing of an ACTIVE-DUTY military member that has gone on here"

I've not bashed any poor grunts. But you should have seen some of the bashing that McCain got from some so-called "patriots" at FR, one of them (on another thread) wishing McCain had died in North Vietnamese captivity, and calling McCain a "traitor to America" simply because he didn't support Bush.

Some FReepers get a vicarious thrill from cheering the military -- unless it's a military man they don't like. I'm not a McCain supporter, but even I never stooped so low in my attacks on McCain as some of the "pro-military flag-wavers" at FR.

586 posted on 01/30/2003 10:39:07 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: CWOJackson
LOL...limericks do not count, Jackson. : )
587 posted on 01/30/2003 10:40:07 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: eaglebeak
Yes, he'd be VERY happy, that some third rate moron, who imagined that Huck had a homosexual, pedophilic adventure, with a runaway black, male slave, was denied a chance to add insult to that injury. :-)
588 posted on 01/30/2003 10:40:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: eaglebeak
We could be all engineers and businessmen and ignore the rest.

How poetic.

589 posted on 01/30/2003 10:41:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Speaking at the W.H. is not a freedom, it is a privilege. None of us has the unalienable right to speak at the W.H.



Wouldn't this just be a case of the President exercising his personal freedom and constitutional right to un-invite someone from an even they were previously invited to? Who are these poets to enfoce their will on Mr. Bush and insist on coming where they are not wanted?


AAAKKKKKK I've been battling the lp's too long! I'm beginning to be able to think like they think! Quick someone inject me with Atropine before it's too late!
590 posted on 01/30/2003 10:41:37 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: ravinson
Does the Constitution prohibit the president from employing military force to protect the lives of innocent Americans unless Congress has first declared war?


591 posted on 01/30/2003 10:41:53 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: FreeReign
...and the poets are still free to speak -- outside the White House!

Well believe it or not, there is such a thing as inspired literature. That is what the Bible is about, and that is what many historical and scriptural writings are about. But when you politicise this, it harms the whole process--and it even harms the particular religious cause you may have. Separation of State and Religion is revered for just this reason. You don't want your reverends running your country, and you certainly don't want your politicians running your religion...and sometimes, it's hard to tell. That's why America is here, or at least that's what we thought.

592 posted on 01/30/2003 10:42:54 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: CWOJackson
I am a published poetess. I never wrote on bathroom walls. My poetry can be read in actual books. Ergo, I am talking about my " peers " ( ? ) , when I am saying that those mentioned, in the article, stink. :-)
593 posted on 01/30/2003 10:43:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: FreeReign
The border line of Kuwait is a red light. Sadaam crossed it.

Actually, Kuwait crossed it first, albeit underground. They were slant-drilling oil from Iraq, a violation of international law. Nor would they stop when Saddam told them to. Which is the issue Saddam brought up with the US State dept, when he was given the green light to invade.

That's what I read in the European press -- which FReepers routinely hailed for its truthfulness when they were reporting things about Slick that the US press covered up.

594 posted on 01/30/2003 10:49:48 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: txradioguy
I wouldn't care if it was Shakespere. If they wanna turn a normally benign even into a political statement, then they have to go. Let them go out on the Capitol Mall and spout their anti-American screed for the C-Span cameras. They'll get far more coverage there than they would otherwise.

They're poets. They were invited.

595 posted on 01/30/2003 10:49:51 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: FreeReign
Yeah. I know.
596 posted on 01/30/2003 10:51:07 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: Commie Basher
I covered this issue while you were sleeping earlier. The ONLY oilwells on the Kuwaiti/Iraqi border are NORTH of the line that weperates the two countries. Most of Kuwaits oilfields are in the south. The slant drilling story was a PLANT by the Iraqi Information Ministry. No one but you and Z-man seems to have fallen for it.
597 posted on 01/30/2003 10:53:58 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: nopardons
Yes but for some people the greater the stench the better the poetry. It's kind of like the patriotic beliefs of some of these posters...they think just because their believes smell to high heaven they're doing something right.

Naw, they just stink.

598 posted on 01/30/2003 10:54:50 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
But Duchess, my poetry comes with it's own paper of authenticity...unless the roll's empty.
599 posted on 01/30/2003 10:56:33 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Commie Basher
The border line of Kuwait is a red light. Sadaam crossed it.

Actually, Kuwait crossed it first, albeit underground. They were slant-drilling oil from Iraq, a violation of international law. Nor would they stop when Saddam told them to. Which is the issue Saddam brought up with the US State dept, when he was given the green light to invade. That's what I read in the European press -- which FReepers routinely hailed for its truthfulness when they were reporting things about Slick that the US press covered up.

Before the Gulf War, Iraq claimed that Kuwait was stealing oil by method of horizontal drilling from the Iraqi "Rumaila" oil field.

However, Kuwait claimed that it was not using horizontal drilling to drain the Rumail oil field. Instead, Kuwait claimed that any drilling that they were doing in the area was to extract oil from it's own "Ratqa" oil field.

U.N. surveys of the area before the Gulf War had documented that the Kuwaiti Ratqa oil field was actually a southern extension of Iraq's super-giant Rumaila oil field.

Thus, the Kuwaitis were able to drain some of the Rumaila oil by drilling STRAIGHT DOWN into sovereign Kuwaiti land. In other words -- these sovereign countries SHARED AND STRADDLED THE SAME OIL FIELD.

During the weeks preceeding the Iraqi August 1990 invasion of Kuwait, Kuwait offered to negotiate a sharing or joint development agreement for the Ratqa and southern Rumaila area. Iraq refused to negotiate. Iraq, then invaded Kuwait using the BS "horizontal drilling" charge.

600 posted on 01/30/2003 11:00:57 PM PST by FreeReign
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