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Refuting Darwinism, point by point
WorldNetDaily,com ^ | 1-11-03 | Interview of James Perloff

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DWar

EVOLUTION WATCH Refuting Darwinism, point by point Author's new book presents case against theory in just 83 pages

Posted: January 11, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: In 1999, author James Perloff wrote the popular "Tornado in a Junkyard," which summarizes much of the evidence against evolution and is considered one of the most understandable (while still scientifically accurate) books on the subject. Recently, WND talked with Perloff about his new book, "The Case Against Darwin."

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

QUESTION: Your new book is just 83 pages – and the type is large. What gives?

ANSWER: This past March I got a call from Ohio. There has been a battle there to allow critical examination of evolutionary theory in public schools, and a gentleman wanted 40 copies of Tornado to give to state legislators and school board members. I was delighted to send him the books, but I also knew that a state legislator isn't likely to pick up anything that's 321 pages long.

Q: And not just state legislators.

A: Right. We live in an age when parents often don't have time to read anything long, and their kids, who are usually more into video, may not have the inclination.

Q: So what's the focus of this book?

A: I've divided it into three chapters. The first is called "Is Darwin's Theory Relevant to Our Lives?" In other words, is the subject of this book worth my time or not? A lot of people think this is simply a science issue. And to some of them, science is booooring. But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. In short, Darwinism is very relevant – it's much more than a science matter.

Q: You, yourself, were an atheist for many years, were you not, as a result of evolutionary teaching?

A: That's right. I thought evolution had discredited the Bible. In my books, I give examples of notables who became atheists from being taught evolution, such as Stalin and Carnegie. In fact, the atheist Boy Scout who's been in the news reportedly attributes his atheism to being taught evolution.

Q: Why do you think evolution has such a persuasively negative effect on faith?

A: First, it's taught as "scientific fact." When kids hear "scientific fact," they think "truth." Who wants to go against truth? Second, it's the only viewpoint that's taught. After the Supreme Court kicked God out of schools in the '60s, kids heard the evolutionist viewpoint exclusively. It's like going to a courtroom – if you only heard the prosecutor's summation, you would probably think the defendant guilty. But if you only heard the defendant's attorney, you'd think "innocent." The truth is, we need to hear both sides, and kids haven't been getting it on the subject of origins.

Q: OK, then what?

A: The second chapter is "Evidence Against the Theory of Evolution." Let's face it, no matter what Darwinism's social ramifications, that alone would not be a sufficient basis to criticize it, if it were scientifically proven true.

Q: In a nutshell – if that's possible – what is the scientific evidence against Darwinism?

A: In the book, I focus on six areas of evidence. First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information – even in the rare cases of beneficial mutations, such as bacterial resistance to antibiotics. That has been laid out by Dr. Lee Spetner in his book "Not By Chance."

Q: What else?

A: Second, cells are now known to be far too complex to have originated by some chance concurrence of chemicals, as Darwin hypothesized and is still being claimed. We detail that in the book. Third, the human body has systems, such as blood clotting and the immune system, that are, in the words of biochemist Michael Behe, "irreducibly complex," meaning they cannot have evolved step-by-step. Behe articulated that in his book "Darwin's Black Box." And then there is the whole issue of transitional forms.

Q: What is a transitional form?

A: Darwin's theory envisioned that single-celled ancestors evolved into invertebrates (creatures without a backbone), who evolved into fish, who evolved into amphibians, who evolved into reptiles, who evolved into mammals. Now, a transitional form would be a creature intermediate between these. There would have to be a great many for Darwin's theory to be true.

Q: Are there?

A: There are three places to look for transitional forms. First, there's the living world around us. We see that it is distinctly divided – you have invertebrates, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. But we don't see transitionals between them. If these creatures ever existed, why did none survive? It is too easy to explain it away by saying they all became extinct. And of course, there is the question: Why aren't these creatures evolving into each other today? Why aren't invertebrates evolving into fish today? Why aren't fish growing little legs and so forth?

Q: Where else would you look for a transitional form?

A: In the fossil record. And here we have a problem of almost comparable magnitude. We find no fossils showing how the invertebrates evolved, or demonstrating that they came from a common ancestor. That's why you hear of the "Cambrian explosion." And while there are billions of fossils of both invertebrates and fish, fossils linking them are missing. Of course, there are some transitional fossils cited by evolutionists. However, two points about that. First, there should be a lot more if Darwin's theory is correct. Second, 99 percent of the biology of an organism is in its soft anatomy, which you cannot access in a fossil – this makes it easy to invest a fossil with a highly subjective opinion. The Piltdown Man and the recent Archaeoraptor are examples of how easy it is to be misled by preconceptions in this arena.

Q: What is the other place where you can look for transitional forms?

A: Microscopically, in the cell itself. Dr. Michael Denton, the Australian molecular biologist, examined these creatures on a molecular level and found no evidence whatsoever for the fish-amphibian-reptile-mammal sequence. He summarized his findings in his book "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis."

The last chapter is "Re-evaluating Some Evidences Used to Support the Theory" of evolution. That would include evidences that have been discredited, and also some evidences presented as proof that in fact rest on assumptions.

Q: What evidences have been discredited?

A: Ernst Haeckel's comparative embryo drawings. The human body being laden with "vestigial structures" from our animal past. Human blood and sea water having the same percentage of salt. Babies being born with "monkey tails." These are not foundational evidences, but they still hold sway in the public mind.

Q: You mentioned assumptions as proofs.

A: Yes. Anatomical similarities between men and animals are said to prove common ancestry. But intelligent design also results in innumerable similarities, as in the case of two makes of automobile. Also, what has been called "microevolution" – minor adaptive changes within a type of animal – is extrapolated as evidence for "macroevolution" – the changing of one kind of animal into another. However, a species is normally endowed with a rich gene pool that permits a certain amount of variation and adaptation. Certainly, those things happen. But the change is ordinarily limited to the confines of the gene pool. It doesn't mean a fish could adapt its way into being a human.

Q: You covered a lot of this ground in "Tornado in a Junkyard." Can readers expect something new from "The Case Against Darwin"?

A: There is a bit of new material, but no, if you've read "Tornado," or for that matter, if you read the July 2001 Whistleblower, where we looked at evolution, you already know most of the points. What's new is the size. This is a book to give to a busy friend, a book for a high-school student to share with his science teacher.

"The Case Against Darwin" by James Perloff is available from ShopNetDaily.


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To: PatrickHenry
Hey Pat don't cut me off. I'd never threaten you with that. My younger brothers name is Pat. He is smarter and more successful than me. Which I refuse to hold against you, by the way.

I would like to know what you think the brilliance of our constitutional republic can be attributed to. (even though there is a malignant group of ungodly anarchists trying to tear it apart).

Possibly you will agree that the largest group of truly patriotic people currently in this country are represented by Evangelical and Fundamentalists Christians (not to say that all professing Christians are spot on).
1,101 posted on 01/27/2003 9:04:21 PM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc/liberal/govt-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern ANARCHY age...

1,102 posted on 01/28/2003 12:11:16 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: bondserv
"Are you trying to say that this is not what a majority of evolution proponents conclude?"

Regarding everything that followed the question above, in your post, I have no idea what you are responding to. In regards to your question: I am not trying to make any statement. I am just asking for you to support your statement from post #1064. I will try once more. You wrote: "This relates to this thread because we believe that Darwin's theory was the final straw that enabled intelligent people to 'logically' reject the concept of God."

I notice that your statement said, "...we believe that..." so maybe there was just a gut feeling or other arbitrary basis for the statement. If the basis of the statement was not something arbitrary, then can you qualify your statement by formulating an argument whereby an intelligent person could "logically" reject the concept of God? I got the impression that you may have been attempting to answer this, in the first paragraph of your response. However, if a professor who "believed herself to be intelligent" were to deduce that "random mutations and genetic changes over time" were the "mechanism that has brought life to its present state" that would not be a logical means of rejecting the concept of God - unless you and I have a fundamental disagreement regarding what the "concept of God" is.
1,103 posted on 01/28/2003 8:51:12 AM PST by Voice in your head (Nuke Iraq... and then France.)
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To: PatrickHenry
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1,104 posted on 01/28/2003 2:46:21 PM PST by longshadow
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To: longshadow
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1,105 posted on 01/28/2003 4:26:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A proud product of evolution!)
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To: Voice in your head
I agree it is totally illogical. As you have so adeptly pointed out my struggle. I cannot do what you ask. And yet many scientists argue for evolutions ability to explain origins of life. We should protest our children going to these illogical Universities.

I am so glad we agree. Maybe if we ignore the scientists, as you are suggesting, then they will be forced to consider all avenues of possibility and publish these ideas in their journals.

By the way what is your "concept of God"?
1,106 posted on 01/28/2003 5:28:14 PM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
"I am so glad we agree. Maybe if we ignore the scientists, as you are suggesting..."

Now I understand the communication breakdown.

1,107 posted on 01/28/2003 8:20:53 PM PST by Voice in your head (Nuke Iraq... and then France.)
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To: f.Christian
Our resident Christian wordsmith continues to inform and entertain us, in his/her unique way. Seems to me you could save all of your posts and put together a modern Silmarillion.

What is the f. in f.Christian?
1,108 posted on 01/28/2003 9:04:21 PM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
Atheist blather // babble .. .. .. is that all evolution is about !! !! !!

FletcherC. signed up 1998-10-17.

1,109 posted on 01/28/2003 10:28:29 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: f.Christian
bttt
1,110 posted on 01/28/2003 10:30:15 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: f.Christian
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1,111 posted on 01/28/2003 10:30:50 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: Voice in your head
Now I understand the communication breakdown.

Naaa, just a fun little Ta-Da-Ta.

So much is currently changing in science with modern technology. Many of the textbooks you and I studied in college are obsolete today. (1985-87 geology major but no degree)

We were taught many fascinating things that are still "believed" to be true today. Quantum mechanics and technological advances have caused many scientific hard "facts" to be disputed. (electrons and protons aren’t the smallest form of matter anymore)

Nanotechnology has shown us how much we can manipulate atoms to create superstructure molecules that outperform "hammer and anvil" wrought materials. (Silicon CPU's) Super telescopes in space are revealing how uncommon a solar system we enjoy. (obviously nothing conclusive there yet)

No matter what our education or intelligence or ability to deduce and reason, there is always so much knowledge and understanding outside of our capacity, being dogmatic on any idea tends to cause us to make dangerous assumptions.

The schools and their textbooks have been so politicized much of the education we recieved has to be reevaluated. Honesty and integrity aren't the watchwords of modern education anymore.

With all of the intangibles in life, my only hope is that people will at least keep an open mind. I continue to try to force myself to do just that, despite my propensity to do just the opposite.

God is faithful to bring people like you along to remind me. You truly are a "voice in my head". Thank you. The jury's not out yet so keep being a diligent student, and post your adventures on FR for all to enjoy!

1,112 posted on 01/29/2003 12:43:03 AM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
What is the f. in f.Christian?

From this biographical site:

Fletcher Christian - Master's Mate Mutineer, age 23

His conduct, especially after the mutiny, indicate that he was thin-skinned, mercurial, and emotional. Here was a man who felt he had ability, but any criticism made him question his own worth.
Remember the Bounty?
1,113 posted on 01/29/2003 5:44:58 AM PST by js1138
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To: bondserv
"Many of the textbooks you and I studied in college are obsolete today."

I graduated with a degree in Biology in December of 2002 - about a month ago.

"With all of the intangibles in life, my only hope is that people will at least keep an open mind. I continue to try to force myself to do just that, despite my propensity to do just the opposite."

A good way to force yourself to do just that would be to ponder my question. I am not suggesting that for my benefit, but for yours. I already attempted to get you to answer it 3 times - I know when to quit. Just ponder it to yourself. Think about how a theory regarding the genetic change of populations could lead a rational person acting prudently to conclude that there is no God. (Hint: Does evolution attempt to answer the question of where matter and energy came from?)

1,114 posted on 01/29/2003 8:22:07 AM PST by Voice in your head (Demagogue Party platform: Your money is my human right.)
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To: js1138
Remember the Bounty?

1113 posted on 01/29/2003 5:44 AM PST by js1138


How about the War of Independence I & II ? ? ?
1,115 posted on 01/29/2003 12:03:15 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: PatrickHenry
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1,116 posted on 01/29/2003 6:24:51 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Voice in your head
Congratulations on your graduation.

I do not believe Darwin’s writings tried to tackle the subject of cosmological evolution, but we know many scientists since then have extended Darwin’s evolutionary theory into the universe.

Einstein and other scientists have attempted to create a unified model that could help to explain the origins of the universe. Of which, prior to Darwin, very little study of origins took place. (because of the scientist’s biblical view of creation)

You may know that Isaac Newton was a believer in Jesus Christ, and even wrote some prophetically significant commentary on books of the Bible. Newton's personal study of the prophecies in the book of Daniel cemented his conviction that Jesus was who he claimed to be. Newton’s contributions to the scientific community were also groundbreaking discoveries.

Without Newton's introduction of calculus and subsequent scientists building on his writings, Einstein would not have had the formulas to build his theories of relativity. Modern physicists are floating the idea that the speed of light is not a constant, which makes even the E=MC2 provocative.

If light, being particles having mass (strangely traveling in waves), approaching a black hole accelerates the C (light traveling about 186,000 miles per second not so constantly) in E=MC2 would cause a clock in that area of space, relative to our clocks on earth, to be way faster than normal (relative to the acceleration).

The accuracy of atomic dating of rocks and our scientific estimates of the age of the universe may be making a decided shift in the next few years. Some scientists are claiming that the speed of light is decelerating according to the data collected since it began being measured.

Keep your seatbelts on, for mankind’s understanding of reality may be shifting, as these new discoveries and revelations begin attacking our scientific presuppositions.
1,117 posted on 01/29/2003 10:29:46 PM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
I do not believe Darwin’s writings tried to tackle the subject of cosmological evolution, but we know many scientists since then have extended Darwin’s evolutionary theory into the universe.

Darwin was a biologist, not an astronomer. The biological theory of evolution is not even remotely related to cosmology -- except that the time required for speciation is consistent with the age of the universe and the age of the earth. No "scientist" would even think to "extended Darwin’s evolutionary theory into the universe" because stars aren't biological entities.

Einstein and other scientists have attempted to create a unified model that could help to explain the origins of the universe. Of which, prior to Darwin, very little study of origins took place. (because of the scientist’s biblical view of creation)

It makes no sense to say "prior to Darwin" in this context.

You may know that Isaac Newton was a believer in Jesus Christ, and even wrote some prophetically significant commentary on books of the Bible. Newton's personal study of the prophecies in the book of Daniel cemented his conviction that Jesus was who he claimed to be.

Euclid probably believed in the Olympian gods. So what?

Newton’s contributions to the scientific community were also groundbreaking discoveries.

Yes. We know.

Without Newton's introduction of calculus and subsequent scientists building on his writings, Einstein would not have had the formulas to build his theories of relativity.

High school algebra is sufficient to understand special relativity. In any event, there is no issue as to the utility of calculus. We know Newton's work was significant. Why do you bring this up? Is it because Newton was a Christian? So what? Newton's scientific work is not based on the bible, any more than Euclid's work is based on the Iliad.

Modern physicists are floating the idea that the speed of light is not a constant, which makes even the E=MC2 provocative.

Huh? Could you be more specific here?

If light, being particles having mass (strangely traveling in waves), approaching a black hole accelerates the C (light traveling about 186,000 miles per second not so constantly) in E=MC2 would cause a clock in that area of space, relative to our clocks on earth, to be way faster than normal (relative to the acceleration).

[Sigh.] Not faster. Slower. Much slower.

The accuracy of atomic dating of rocks and our scientific estimates of the age of the universe may be making a decided shift in the next few years. Some scientists are claiming that the speed of light is decelerating according to the data collected since it began being measured.

Creation "scientists" make this claim. I don't believe that anyone who is knowlegable takes it seriously.

1,118 posted on 01/30/2003 6:54:59 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
To you the Bible and the Iliad are the same . . .

sorta like evolution and science are the same too !

When you don't know reality - - -

fantasy // fiction from truth . . .

that is called psychosis // insanity ! ! !
1,119 posted on 01/30/2003 7:26:20 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: PatrickHenry
[Sigh]
1,120 posted on 01/30/2003 8:44:54 AM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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