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To: lentulusgracchus
The charge of treason requires, among other things, that Lee be a United States citizen, which he wasn't any more, and that he give concrete assistance to belligerent enemies of the United States.

No state has ever been out of the Union. The Supreme Court ruled, further, that all acts and ordinances of secession were null and void.

Had there been enough support for such in the country after Appomattox, there is no doubt that Lee and many others would have met the same fate as the four plotters in the assassination of President Lincoln. His firm refusal to even consider treason trials helped to save the rebel leaders.

Walt

371 posted on 12/29/2002 5:30:22 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
No state has ever been out of the Union.

If, according to your argument, no state has ever been out of the Union, then the Constitution must have still applied to the states that seceded. Was the power to free slaves in seceded states delegated to the Executive somewhere in the Constitution or was Lincoln simply running roughshod over the Constitution again with the Emancipation Proclamation?

374 posted on 12/29/2002 8:24:43 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: WhiskeyPapa
No state has ever been out of the Union.

Sure they have. Before the ratification of the Articles of Confederation, and from 1861 to 1865.

The Supreme Court ruled, further, that all acts and ordinances of secession were null and void.

And 4ConservativeJustices and I demonstrated, over your objections, that the Supreme Court was attempting to rule above its competence, and that its opinion of the secession of the Southern States was and is null and void by reason of ultra vires.

You are at it again -- trying to deny that you took a whipping on this subject, by simply posting up your position again de novo, as if it had never been dealt with.

392 posted on 12/30/2002 5:34:34 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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