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A chat room helped Westerfield prosecutors
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 12/12/02 | Alex Roth

Posted on 12/12/2002 8:19:20 AM PST by Jaded

When a person goes in search of enlightenment, it's usually good advice to avoid an Internet chat room. And yet it was a random posting on the Internet that led to a key piece of evidence in the David Westerfield case.

At a luncheon in Mission Valley yesterday, prosecutors Jeff Dusek and George "Woody" Clarke told a number of anecdotes – some of them funny, others poignant and revealing – about what happened behind the scenes in the most publicized criminal trial in San Diego County history.

The luncheon was organized by the San Diego Crime Commission and about 100 people attended.

The lawyers talked about their late-night strategy sessions, about the emotional toll of the case on their spouses, about moments of inspiration that came from the strangest of places.

They also took some shots at the media coverage – especially the media's treatment of the parents of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam – and revealed some previously undisclosed statements they said were made by Westerfield. He is scheduled to be sentenced Jan. 3 for kidnapping and killing the Sabre Springs second-grader. A jury has recommended the death penalty.

It was Dusek who told the story about the Internet.

During the trial, he said, the lawyers were surfing a Web site where most of the postings were from people convinced of Westerfield's innocence. Several of the postings dealt with the subject of the blond hairs found in Westerfield's motor home.

Prosecutors said the hair proved that Westerfield kidnapped the girl. Westerfield's lawyers said their client often kept the motor home unlocked in the neighborhood and that the girl might have snuck inside at some point to play.

On the chat room, the discussion turned to speculation about whether the prosecution had bothered to find out the date of Danielle's last haircut. The consensus in the chat room was that of course they had.

Actually, they hadn't. They'd never thought to do so.

It turned out that Danielle's last haircut had been five days before her disappearance. After the haircut, her hair was eight inches long – the exact length of the hairs found in the motor home, which hadn't been parked in the neighborhood for several months.

Dusek also revealed the story behind the alleged scratch marks on Westerfield's arm. Pictures of the scratch marks were used as evidence at the preliminary hearing in March – but the jury at Westerfield's trial never heard about them.

The reason: An expert analyzed the marks after the preliminary hearing and couldn't conclusively match them to Danielle's fingers.

"Woody and I are still convinced it's scratch marks," Dusek told the audience. "What else could it be? But we didn't have proof."

Dusek said parts of the trial were particularly draining on his wife, who broke into tears after listening to a media commentator who suggested that the defense's opening statements were more effective that the prosecution's.

He also criticized the media for overhyping the testimony about the van Dams' spouse-swapping and the couple's use of marijuana on the night their daughter vanished.

Discussing what he called the media's vilification of the van Dams, Dusek cited an incident where the couple was lambasted on talk radio for wearing Danielle buttons on their lapels during their testimony at the preliminary hearing.

Noting that the couple immediately removed the buttons from their lapels after leaving the witness stand, one radio reporter suggested that the couple had been making a phony display of their grief to influence the judge.

In reality, the only reason they removed the buttons was because both prosecutors wanted to have them as mementos, Dusek said.

"They walk out of that courtroom without their badges and they get blistered on the radio that night," he said.

Dusek also revealed some statements he said Westerfield made at various points during the trial.

At the start of the trial, just after the prosecution had finished its opening statements, Westerfield was being led down a hallway when he turned to a bailiff and said, "They may as well send me to (San) Quentin right now."

During the penalty phase of the case, when Westerfield's lawyers called friends and family members to the witness stand in an effort to save their client's life, Westerfield looked at his lawyers with a confused expression on his face when one woman approached the stand.

"Who's that?" he asked.

"It's your aunt," his lawyers informed him.

Yesterday, neither Steven Feldman nor Robert Boyce, Westerfield's two main lawyers, returned phone calls seeking comment.

At one point during the presentation, a questioner asked Dusek what he thought about Feldman, whose hyperactive theatrics became well-known to everyone who followed the case.

He called Feldman "a very good attorney." Citing ethics guidelines, Dusek wouldn't comment on a report in the Union-Tribune that Westerfield's lawyers had been trying in February to broker a plea whereby their client would reveal the location of the girl's body in exchange for a life sentence rather than the death penalty.

"He promised a vigorous defense," Dusek said of Feldman. "He did not say his guy was innocent."


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KEYWORDS: 180frank; danielle; grouches; guiltyguiltyguilty; jamesons; vandam; westerfield
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To: Valpal1; Jaded; cyncooper; ~Kim4VRWC's~; redlipstick; demsux; All
I found the following article interesting. Especially in light of the fact that Danielle had a computer in her room, was often left 'alone' and most likely her activities on the computer were 'unmonitored' by her parents. Police took her computer but we never heard anything about it after that. Is is possible that DW was feeling 'deserted' by her parents (Remember, Mom went to the bar the weekend before, and the weekend she disappeared? Dad says he was 'home' with the kids the entire evening, but there was testimony that both parents were gone, leaving the kids home alone. Is it possible that Danielle found a 'friend' on the internet? Another pervert caught"
541 posted on 01/02/2003 1:06:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; Jaded
Thanks for the ping Kim.

Wishing you the best New Year ever!

We have snow down here in S.E. Mo. All day but temps staying to warm to cause a road problem(I hope)

Please remember me on your new thread.Thanks Jaded

542 posted on 01/02/2003 1:37:43 PM PST by BARLF
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To: UCANSEE2
You are too funny! There was NO testimony about both parents being absent. Just chat room gossip and unfounded internet claims like yours.

Also I distinctly remember news accounts when the computers were returned after examination. Also results from the hard drive examinations were available to the defense attorneys, who apparently found nothing useful either.

Nice try though, got anymore?
543 posted on 01/02/2003 1:37:54 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: UCANSEE2
1.Verify that Danielle had a computer in her room.
2.Verify that police removed a computer from her room.
3.Try to remember that the victim's initials were DvD, not DW.
544 posted on 01/02/2003 1:40:54 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: UCANSEE2
MEEEEOOOOWWWWW...Maybe the "gloatjackals" will leave after DW gets death tomorrow.
545 posted on 01/02/2003 1:45:22 PM PST by demsux
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To: Valpal1
Not only does it sound good - it sounds easy too!
Thanks!!!
546 posted on 01/02/2003 1:48:35 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: UCANSEE2
I just found that article too! Thanks for the ping anyway. I'm done with alternative theories. No one can or will be able to justify what they found in dw's possession. Although in the dark, middle of the night..and person with a voice changer could have lured her out of her room..thank about it.
547 posted on 01/02/2003 1:51:44 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
thank = think
548 posted on 01/02/2003 1:51:56 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: BARLF
Wishing you the best new year too! The snow missed us by a couple of towns away. i really wanted snow this winter!
549 posted on 01/02/2003 1:53:13 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: redlipstick; Valpal1
Val, thanks for the response. I was asking an open minded question and you provided some intelligent response.

There was testimony that the kids were home by themselves, that evening, whether you believe it or not. It came from Brenda's own mouth.

Redlipstick, Thanks for your response also.

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you both.

There are pictures of Danielle's room with the computer sitting there. I find that to be proof to anyone.

It was in testimony and in the SD-UT that the computer was removed from her room. These are commonly known facts.

My original question was, is it possible Danielle may have been in contact with some pervert via the internet?

The only defense so far is that police, by not saying anything, indicated they didn't find any evidence of this happening. If we place absolute trust in the police, then we can accept that position. If we believe that there is reason to suspect the motives of the police, DA, then the question is still viable.

Do you think it was possible ?

550 posted on 01/02/2003 2:25:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
If her puter had access to the internet, that would be one of the first things the cops would have looked for...pedophile activities, messages, emails etc..
551 posted on 01/02/2003 2:34:57 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Valpal1
Also results from the hard drive examinations were available to the defense attorneys, who apparently found nothing useful either.

Again, this would be the most logical answer, and a reasonable one.

It still doesn't answer the question in full. If Danielle was having 'chats' with a pervert, who was identified by screenname only, it would be hard for anyone to identify or prove anything. Notice that the PERVERT in the article thought he was going to meet a teenage girl. WHY? Because there is no way to identify who you are talking to.

SO, could Danielle have been having chats with someone 'misrepresenting' themself? Since police were concentrating on DW, might they have not noticed these?

552 posted on 01/02/2003 2:35:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If her puter had access to the internet,

So, that would be a key question. Does anyone know ?

553 posted on 01/02/2003 2:38:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Not sure if it was addressed in testimony or not. (happy new year!)
554 posted on 01/02/2003 2:40:34 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Valpal1
Feldman did try to persue Damon's porn. Mudd shut him down.
555 posted on 01/02/2003 2:52:01 PM PST by Jaded
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Where did they find that piece of equipment in DW's possession?

Is it like the missing boots, missing pj's, missing sheets, missing hazmat suit, missing briefcase full of money.

Too much stuff missing.
556 posted on 01/02/2003 2:53:52 PM PST by Jaded
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To: UCANSEE2
I thought you were referring to the Damon had a date rumor stuff. Since Danielle was seen alive after the pizza pick up time, that time didn't jump to mind.

Could Danielle have been having net chats with a pervert and the LE miss it or ignore it. NO, they took the computers specifically looking for that, if there had been any indication of it, defense would have pursued it like a hound dog, as it would be proof of a possible third party perp and would give them all kinds of reasonable doubt wigggle room.

Feldman would not have missed such an obvious opportunity.



557 posted on 01/02/2003 3:58:00 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: UCANSEE2; redlipstick; cyncooper
Here's a hypothetical:

Say a child is missing. You show up on the parents door step offering your services (such as they are). You offer to have DNA samples taken because you were in the home. You immediately hold a press conference to cast suspicion upon the parents. You create a web site (quit laughing Red) You update your website with claims that some think are outrageous including excursions out of the country and satellite phones. You mysteriously find a tarp that you desperately want LE to test. Other claims were made on chat rooms and in forums but not on your web site.

What would the profilers say? Oh and explain the bugs and the pump house.

558 posted on 01/02/2003 6:52:11 PM PST by Jaded
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To: Valpal1
Thank you. This is the kind of debate I like. I would have to agree with your thoughts. Even if the LE did plant evidence to cement their case against DW, surely they had already taken Danielle's computer and searched it prior to locking onto DW.
559 posted on 01/03/2003 12:18:28 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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