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A chat room helped Westerfield prosecutors
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 12/12/02 | Alex Roth

Posted on 12/12/2002 8:19:20 AM PST by Jaded

When a person goes in search of enlightenment, it's usually good advice to avoid an Internet chat room. And yet it was a random posting on the Internet that led to a key piece of evidence in the David Westerfield case.

At a luncheon in Mission Valley yesterday, prosecutors Jeff Dusek and George "Woody" Clarke told a number of anecdotes – some of them funny, others poignant and revealing – about what happened behind the scenes in the most publicized criminal trial in San Diego County history.

The luncheon was organized by the San Diego Crime Commission and about 100 people attended.

The lawyers talked about their late-night strategy sessions, about the emotional toll of the case on their spouses, about moments of inspiration that came from the strangest of places.

They also took some shots at the media coverage – especially the media's treatment of the parents of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam – and revealed some previously undisclosed statements they said were made by Westerfield. He is scheduled to be sentenced Jan. 3 for kidnapping and killing the Sabre Springs second-grader. A jury has recommended the death penalty.

It was Dusek who told the story about the Internet.

During the trial, he said, the lawyers were surfing a Web site where most of the postings were from people convinced of Westerfield's innocence. Several of the postings dealt with the subject of the blond hairs found in Westerfield's motor home.

Prosecutors said the hair proved that Westerfield kidnapped the girl. Westerfield's lawyers said their client often kept the motor home unlocked in the neighborhood and that the girl might have snuck inside at some point to play.

On the chat room, the discussion turned to speculation about whether the prosecution had bothered to find out the date of Danielle's last haircut. The consensus in the chat room was that of course they had.

Actually, they hadn't. They'd never thought to do so.

It turned out that Danielle's last haircut had been five days before her disappearance. After the haircut, her hair was eight inches long – the exact length of the hairs found in the motor home, which hadn't been parked in the neighborhood for several months.

Dusek also revealed the story behind the alleged scratch marks on Westerfield's arm. Pictures of the scratch marks were used as evidence at the preliminary hearing in March – but the jury at Westerfield's trial never heard about them.

The reason: An expert analyzed the marks after the preliminary hearing and couldn't conclusively match them to Danielle's fingers.

"Woody and I are still convinced it's scratch marks," Dusek told the audience. "What else could it be? But we didn't have proof."

Dusek said parts of the trial were particularly draining on his wife, who broke into tears after listening to a media commentator who suggested that the defense's opening statements were more effective that the prosecution's.

He also criticized the media for overhyping the testimony about the van Dams' spouse-swapping and the couple's use of marijuana on the night their daughter vanished.

Discussing what he called the media's vilification of the van Dams, Dusek cited an incident where the couple was lambasted on talk radio for wearing Danielle buttons on their lapels during their testimony at the preliminary hearing.

Noting that the couple immediately removed the buttons from their lapels after leaving the witness stand, one radio reporter suggested that the couple had been making a phony display of their grief to influence the judge.

In reality, the only reason they removed the buttons was because both prosecutors wanted to have them as mementos, Dusek said.

"They walk out of that courtroom without their badges and they get blistered on the radio that night," he said.

Dusek also revealed some statements he said Westerfield made at various points during the trial.

At the start of the trial, just after the prosecution had finished its opening statements, Westerfield was being led down a hallway when he turned to a bailiff and said, "They may as well send me to (San) Quentin right now."

During the penalty phase of the case, when Westerfield's lawyers called friends and family members to the witness stand in an effort to save their client's life, Westerfield looked at his lawyers with a confused expression on his face when one woman approached the stand.

"Who's that?" he asked.

"It's your aunt," his lawyers informed him.

Yesterday, neither Steven Feldman nor Robert Boyce, Westerfield's two main lawyers, returned phone calls seeking comment.

At one point during the presentation, a questioner asked Dusek what he thought about Feldman, whose hyperactive theatrics became well-known to everyone who followed the case.

He called Feldman "a very good attorney." Citing ethics guidelines, Dusek wouldn't comment on a report in the Union-Tribune that Westerfield's lawyers had been trying in February to broker a plea whereby their client would reveal the location of the girl's body in exchange for a life sentence rather than the death penalty.

"He promised a vigorous defense," Dusek said of Feldman. "He did not say his guy was innocent."


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 180frank; danielle; grouches; guiltyguiltyguilty; jamesons; vandam; westerfield
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To: cyncooper
Whatever, you are two peas in a pod. Well actually, there are four of you. Kindred Spirits? How touchy-feely PC.
481 posted on 12/29/2002 5:13:27 AM PST by Jaded
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To: redlipstick
Your point appears to be what ever suits your intent, which changes depending on which poster you are addressing. Your whole position that because one posts a link one is somehow allied with groups linked on that page is totally outrageous. It doesn't reflect well on you. Some of your friends post on 1B does that mean they are as anti-rights and anti-constitution as some of those folks? By your reasoning, if Jackson, Clinton, Gray Davis or any other Democrat were opposed to terrorism, would you then think it a good thing because you don't like their agenda? Be careful how you swing that blade while you're trying to bait people.

You and your ilk seem to go out of your way to make some of the most absurd claims while screeching about others. You need to check your own tin foil.

BTW Because They Whined is linked on my page as well as their opposite, so what?
482 posted on 12/29/2002 5:19:19 AM PST by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Okay.
So, I was right. You didn't read the website, you just read the article. It fit your agenda, so you posted it.

483 posted on 12/29/2002 7:29:38 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: Jaded
You and your ilk seem to go out of your way to make some of the most absurd claims

For instance?

484 posted on 12/29/2002 7:49:51 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: redlipstick
Good morning, fellow traveler--in a world where the sky is blue and 2 + 2 = 4.
485 posted on 12/29/2002 7:50:52 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Good morning to you, too.
486 posted on 12/29/2002 7:54:50 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: Valpal1
The fact that the jacket contains the maximum amount of Danielle's DNA and so little of DW's is quite frankly a joke. After being cleaned it is unreasonable to think that Danielle's DNA would not have degraded at all, while DW's did.

You are assuming that both DNA's were left at a similar or same time. There is no reason to assume such a thing. DW's DNA could be from a much older stain that had undergone several cleanings as well as exposure to air and light for a much longer period of time thus more degraded.

I am not assuming, I am offering a reasonable interpretation of the evidence, as are you. Since this is a circumstantial evidence case, the interpretation pointed towards "not guilty" wins.

The fact that Danielle's DNA was undegraded indicates it was more recently left.

The fact that her DNA did not degrade after dry cleaning is ridiculous. But I agree her DNA was more recently left on the jacket, sometime after Feb. 4th.

The differing states of the two DNA is really a non starter red herring.

It was a non starter to those ignorant jurors, I'll agree there.

487 posted on 12/29/2002 11:54:31 AM PST by CW_Conservative
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To: CW_Conservative
Good to see you again. I appreciate your diligence in reviewing the transcripts.

j
488 posted on 12/29/2002 1:29:04 PM PST by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Kindred Spirits?

Sounds like some kind of coven thing.

489 posted on 12/30/2002 9:16:45 AM PST by demsux
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To: redlipstick
Take a look at #489. Some people are i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t.
490 posted on 12/30/2002 9:19:58 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
I've got him on neglect. I refuse to pay any attention to someone so low as to link to a group of incestuous pedophiliac pornographers.

491 posted on 12/30/2002 9:53:36 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
Yes, I agree. Also this person has the temerity to say Kim should get a life, all the while engaging in bizarre and slanderous "research". Back to "ignore".

(Interesting to note the "hail fellow well met" greetings to and fro...condoning such distasteful behavior.)

492 posted on 12/30/2002 9:57:01 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: demsux
Just pc.

Hope you had a great Christmas!
493 posted on 12/30/2002 10:08:21 AM PST by Jaded
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To: redlipstick
See what I mean?
494 posted on 12/30/2002 10:23:45 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Yes, and it makes me laugh at the pathetic obviousness of it all.

Happy New Year, Cyn.
495 posted on 12/30/2002 10:30:40 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
Happy New Year, to you, too, red.

(Doesn't it seem like yesterday "Y2k" was THE topic?)
496 posted on 12/30/2002 10:41:08 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
And on January 1, 2002, we had never heard the names Danielle van Dam or David Westerfield.
497 posted on 12/30/2002 11:03:16 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
I wish we'd still never heard those names. It's obvious though that some of us really care - on both sides of "the fence".

I hope in the New Year that the people I've come to know and LIKE on these threads will be able to be nicer to each other. I just can't stand all of the fussing and fighting. That's why I stay out of the fray. But I do continue to lurk and wish to thank the ones who keep us updated.

God Bless You All and keep your families safe. And you young gals be especially careful in shopping malls! It's not just the little ones who are being preyed upon.

Love,
Judy

498 posted on 12/30/2002 11:15:25 AM PST by JudyB1938
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To: redlipstick
Thought a couple swingers were on the cable show "Designing for the Sexes" a few days back. That's a show where a dapper english accented home and interior designer helps a couple resolve some design differences. It was the couple with that strange rec room with the trekkie mural. The designer sort of suggested it at the end with a comment about "boogeying the night away".

Big long room. The husband's end was redone into a three row movie theater with well cushioned benches for seating, the wife's end had a nice comfy seating group, and between a wet bar and dance floor.

Wonder what was playing on the big wide screen there?

499 posted on 12/30/2002 11:24:37 AM PST by bvw
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To: CW_Conservative
Call the jurors names if you want, they did their jobs contientiously and I will not fault them for doing so. They saw all the evidence, up close and personal. You saw only a portion by remote. I'll take their ignorance over yours anyday.

500 posted on 12/30/2002 11:29:53 AM PST by Valpal1
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