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To: exmarine; js1138
Is this what you mean by "Corinthians 2:14"?

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

I'm curious because I stared at it until I was blue in the face, and nothing about slavery leaped out at me. I assume your reference to Romans is equally a smokescreen, since you didn't quote a verse, and I scanned it quickly without finding anything regarding "chattel" slavery or "bondservant" slavery or plain old vanilla slavery.

Here, by the way, is a fairly comprehensive list of the Old Testament verses that support slavery. Here's from the New. Notice the explicit use of the word "slavery" in the KJV. Also notice some of the more delicate injunctions the lord lays on his chosen people regarding these "bondsmen" and "maidservants" as you so delicately put it. Like legalized rape, and forced circumcision, or the titheing of virgin Midianite slaves captured in war and reserved for the priesthood.

6,449 posted on 02/06/2003 1:52:51 AM PST by donh
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To: donh
You already admitted that you don't even understand the differences between bondservanthood and chattel. People like you throw out bible verses you have zero understanding of. You interpret them thru the lens of your western idea of chattel slavery, and your anti-Christian bigoted heart.

As far as the website goes, it does not make roman slavery akin to a vacation in the bahamas. That is a dishonest mischaracterization. But that is not surprising coming from an intellectually dishonest person like you.

6,453 posted on 02/06/2003 6:42:19 AM PST by exmarine
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To: donh
Hey donh, while you are busy throwing our the verses on slavery from scripture, maybe you could also give us the correct context of those verses, since you have now become a self-appointed bible expert. You think the website on slavery is laughable, I think your knowledge of scripture is laughable. Tell you what, champ, why don't you give me your refutation of the essay in the website - POINT BY POINT! Why don't you - the expert on slavery - give us all an education, hmm?

Posting bible verses about slavery is woefully insufficient to satisfy the burden of proof that is on you. Since context is everything and you have zero understanding of the context, and since you have made a judgment on the matter before you have the facts about OT/NT slavery, you are only succeeding in demonstrating your unmitigated bias.

You do not understand the application of 1Cor 2:14 for the precise reason that the verse itself gives - you are a natural man who has no capability of understanding truths that are spiritually discerned. Actually, that verse excludes the possibility of your understanding scripture in your present heart state. It's ironic isn't it that you can't even understand the verse that explains why you can't understand it.

6,454 posted on 02/06/2003 7:05:06 AM PST by exmarine
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