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To: gore3000
These things have been observed in a sense - we have observed their effects. What you are talking about though is something which is purely fictional, therefore it is not science.

In what manner does observing stellar incidences, and infering stellar histories, differ from observing fossils and morphologically similar modern forms and infering biological evolution? In both cases, you are pinning a theory that implies an enormous range of behaviors you have not observed on a tiny handful you have observed.

6,166 posted on 01/29/2003 6:57:57 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
As with other historical sciences, stellar evolution, biological evolution, and language evolution are all based on synchronic observaton. Only biological evolution has older objects to play with. Linguistics gets about 7000 years directly.
6,181 posted on 01/30/2003 6:19:39 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (The world is a solemn place, with room for tennis. - John Berryman)
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To: donh
These things have been observed in a sense - we have observed their effects. What you are talking about though is something which is purely fictional, therefore it is not science.-me-

In what manner does observing stellar incidences, and infering stellar histories, differ from observing fossils and morphologically similar modern forms and infering biological evolution? In both cases, you are pinning a theory that implies an enormous range of behaviors you have not observed on a tiny handful you have observed.

First of all, I do think that we have indeed seen some stars explode through our telescopes, so this stuff is not completely 'imagination'.

The reason you cannot infer evolution from fossils is twofold:
1. the bones show us only a very small part of what makes a species what it is. The DNA, the organs are the most important part of a species and there is no trace of that except in a handful of very special cases.
2. Homology is nonsense. There are far too many examples of totally unrelated species with similar features and what is worse, there are examples of closely related species with completely different features. Therefore homology, the only basis for paleontology is total nonsense. It's not science, it's fairy tales for atheists.

6,216 posted on 01/30/2003 6:35:53 PM PST by gore3000 (Evolution is whaatever lie you want it to be!)
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