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To: Aric2000
Prove to me that god exists, beyond any reasonable doubt and we will talk. But, you can't, so we won't.

Prove to me that He does not. Philosopy tells us that one cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. You must find that out by yourself and a closed mind and a closed heart will keep you from finding out. If you try to understand the meaning of the Bible (instead of nitpicking it) you may find out. The Bible says that we have free will and therefore, IMHO, there can never be an absolute, certain, incontrovertible proof of God. However, to those with an open mind, such proof is not hard to find. The wonders of life, the Universe, the nature all around, us and the words of the Bible are proof for most.

345 posted on 12/14/2002 11:34:45 AM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000; Dr. Frank
Mr. Blueman,

Again I will say this, PROVE to me that god exists, or prove to me that god does NOT exist.

You cannot do either of those things. Therefore God is not a scientific subject, it is religious or philisophical subject.

I will not tell you that god does not exist, because I do NOT know if he does or not. But again, it is NOT scientific.

Now Dr. Frank,

I would much rather have a science class begin with the definition of theory, therefore the students understand from the get go what a theory is and why it is reasonable to question it in a scientific context. This I believe should be the MAIN beginning of ANY science course. A disclaimer about evolution is both unfair and unnecessary. All scientific theories should therefore have that disclamier. By having the class begin with the TRUE definition of "theory" would be the BEST way to please everyone, as far as I am concerned.

Creationists on the other hand will not go for this, because it must be a written disclaimer specifically aimed at evolution. Because of course they do NOT believe in evolution and therefore do not want anyone else to either.

But, then again, there are some reasonable creationists who would see this as not only a fair way, but a very reasonable one. Mr. Blueman above does not fit into this category.
349 posted on 12/14/2002 11:54:54 AM PST by Aric2000
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