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You are discussing philosophy and religion, and I am discussing science.

We are on two different wavelengths but the reason for that is you. You are unwilling to admit or unable to see the philosophy behind your own system. Philosophy is EVERYTHING.

I know history, probably a bit more then you do actually, but I will not get into a pissing match over it.

Your comments on the early American Christians certainly do not indicate that you know your American history. You made a false statement.

Evolution is a scientific theory, the facts back it up, you just choose to ignore those facts. That is your decision.

I have not seen you present any facts, just unsupported assertions. Molecule-to-man evolution is impossible. I will ask you again (since you ignored it last time): How is information added to the genome in the NS+random mutation process?

Creationism on the other hand, has absolutely NO facts to back it up. It was written in a book and it is believed blindly. This is called religion. Religion does NOT belong in a science class. That is where we end up.

I would wager you have never even read the bible. What you say about it is very likely based upon what you have heard. That, my friend, is contempt before investigation.

I am not sure why you want to teach a religious doctrine in a science class. Start a relgious class if you want to do that.

If it is true that God created the world, then shouldn't all human beings be taught that truth? If it is true that God created the world, would it not follow that REAL science would conform to the ordered universe as God made it? Why would this not be science? YOUR definition of science does not allow for God - but that is based upon YOUR philosophy and YOUR presuppositions. YOUR presuppositions are: There is no God, therefore everything evolved; everything evolved, therefore there is no God. First, you assume there is no God, then you define science in the realm of a godless impersonal cosmos. YOUR definition of science is erroneous. As I have already stated, Newton, Copernicus, and Kepler were all scientists who understood that the cosmos was created by God and studied it under that assumption. How did they ever come up with the right answers without Darwin?

I want Kids to learn about science and fact, not be indoctrinated into some silly religion. If you want to do that, do it at home and church. It's NOT the schools job.

YOu mean, YOUR definition of science. You are right - it is NOT the school's job - so why do they indoctrinate kids into YOUR religion? Your religion is atheism and that is what they teach kids in 100% of public schools. I will teach MY Kids what I want them to learn, not what the bankrupt and pathetic public schools want to teach them. I draw your attention to the performance of home schoolers (90% of them are Christian) who outperform public school students to the point of EMBARRASSMENT! That is one reaosn why people who think like you want to do away with home schooling - IT'S A THREAT TO DARWINISM!

"I want Kids to learn about science and fact, not be indoctrinated into some silly religion. If you want to do that, do it at home and church. It's NOT the schools job."

So you reject the conclusion below?

--- "the Louisiana Family Forum, a Christian lobbying group" ---
---- "said the state should force publishers to offer alternatives, correct mistakes in textbooks and fill in gaps in science teachings. "We are talking about major falsehoods that should be addressed"

Thus, it is fairly obvious that Christian groups are the ones trying to 'indoctrinate kids into religion'.
And, -- that atheism is not the religion of the state. - The state is simply obliged to 'make no law respecting' religion.

I am going to ignore the first part of your post, because it is based on a fantasy.

I would wager you have never even read the bible. What you say about it is very likely based upon what you have heard. That, my friend, is contempt before investigation.

I was born and raised a Roman Catholic, I have studied your bible backwards and forwards, I was an altar boy, which required testing in Bible and church doctrine, don't make statements that you are clueless about.

I am not going to cut and paste the next statement, because it is is too damn long.

Here is my response, science CANNOT PROVE OR DISPROVE the existence of god, therefore the existence of god CANNOT be used by science, when you are able to PROVE scientifically that god exists, then we will discuss god being part of science.

I will teach MY Kids what I want them to learn, not what the bankrupt and pathetic public schools want to teach them. I draw your attention to the performance of home schoolers (90% of them are Christian) who outperform public school students to the point of EMBARRASSMENT! That is one reaosn why people who think like you want to do away with home schooling - IT'S A THREAT TO DARWINISM!

I cut that as well, only because THIS is the only part I am going to respond to.

I have 3 kids, and guess what? THEY ARE ALL HOMESCHOOLED!!!I will NOT allow my children to be used as political pawns for christians, atheists, or anyone. THey will be taught how to think and how to question, that is another reason I am NOT christian, because I ask too many questions, and got way too many SILLY answers. Read history, then tell me why I am NOT a Christian. Hint: read about the historical beginnings of the bible and why it was created.

I am done with you, you are a typical fanatic without a clue.