[Junior]

Ever think that to the individuals involved, they and their kith and kin have worth? I mean, with humans being social critters and all it behooves us to stick together in groups and treating others as worthwhile helps to cement the ties of the group? But, in the eyes of the universe we are all pretty much nothing? I think it's really all a matter of scale.

[exmarine]

Ever think that to the individuals involved, they and their kith and kin have worth? I mean, with humans being social critters and all it behooves us to stick together in groups and treating others as worthwhile helps to cement the ties of the group? But, in the eyes of the universe we are all pretty much nothing? I think it's really all a matter of scale.

How does sticking together equate to real objective worth? Why is cementing social ties valuable? The universe has no eyes, remember? If atheism is true, then you cannot be any more valuable than a rock, because the universe and ALL that is in it is the result of random material processes which have no value. Mankind is reduced to a big fat zero. That is the end of your philosophy.