[viaveritasvita]

Why couldn't God make things more obvious? Why not give us a book so clear that honest men and women wouldn't disagree over it? Why couldn't every time someone tells the truth, a halo gleams overhead, and the opposite invokes the Pinocchio principle? Because there is something valuable, something holy in the struggle. We are given sufficient evidence, not coercive evidence. Ward Hill

[viaveritasvita]

"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"

"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.

"I don't much care where," said Alice.

"Then it doesn't matter which way you go."

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
(forgot author's name)

I'm seriously asking: Where is evolution supposed to be taking us? It's my understanding that we are supposedly "evolving" to a higher state physically and in our behavior. If this is a correct (albeit elementary) explanation of evolution, then what is the ultimate end?

No matter what the age of the earth, from approximately 4,000 to 6,000 years old (which is my belief) to upwards of 10 million years, exactly how long do evolutionists think it should take us to evolve into highly intelligent, absolutely compassionate beings who've eradicated hate, war, disease, and cruelty? I'm seriously asking: How long? Can you look me in the eye (or whatever the equivalent would be in cyberspace!) and tell me that 4,000 years is not enough to see significant evolution??? How long do you think it's going to take to get to...where is it again that evolution promises to take us??

[gore3000]

We are given sufficient evidence, not coercive evidence.

Very true indeed. The evidence is there for all to see but to those who willfully close their eyes to it.

[Alamo-Girl]

If I may, I'd like to add a few Scripture quotes to magnify these points you made at #2323:

Why couldn't God make things more obvious? ... Because there is something valuable, something holy in the struggle. We are given sufficient evidence, not coercive evidence.

Matthew 13:10-13 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

And in John 10:24-27 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: