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To: Aric2000
"Give me a flipping break, in the dark ages, when the Church REALLY had power, they would threaten excommunication to ANY scientist willing to question Church doctrine."

I don't believe what man says, be they the pope, Most Rev, Cardinal, Bishop, Reverend, Pastor, "father", Priest, or Evangelist. I believe what the Bible says. So show me, by quoting scripture, where it says that the Earth is flat, and the Earth is the center of the Universe? HMMMMM?

1,588 posted on 12/30/2002 8:12:44 PM PST by webber
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To: webber
good for you, but in the dark ages, that was not the case.

Not a real big history buff, are you?
1,601 posted on 12/30/2002 9:16:33 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: webber
I believe what the Bible says. So show me, by quoting scripture, where it says that the Earth is flat, and the Earth is the center of the Universe? HMMMMM?

Ok, here's just a few verses (flat earth with 4 corners, resting on pillars like a tabletop, all in the center of the universe).

1st Samuel:
2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.

2nd Samuel:
22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.
22:16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

Isaiah:
11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Ecclesiastes:
1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. [An orbit around the earth.]

Joshua:
10:12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

1st Chronicles:
16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psalms:
93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
96:10 Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be re-moved for ever.

Proverbs:
8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Note: obviously, if the earth doesn't move, and we see everything in the heavens moving around us whenever we look into the night sky, then we are in the center of the universe.
1,619 posted on 12/31/2002 4:17:21 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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