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To: gore3000
Abiogenesis has certainly been scientifically disproven and the disproof has only mounted since the time of Pasteur. Read the following and let me see even a hypothesis for life arising from non-life which accounts for the scientifically known facts detailed below...

I just want to know if this is your statement or is this from another source? I cannot refute some of the evidence or figures displayed in this post only because my studies and pursuits lie elsewhere. Will you concede that there might be another way for evolution/abiogenesis to proceed? Is it possible that we just don't understand all of the facts yet? I'm going to play objective observer here and say yes, ID is a possibility (although it does not have the proof that you demand from evolutionists), but in the same light, even with all of YOUR facts and figures, evolution shows a possibility, no matter how small, of being legitimate. Do you think that it is possible that in 20 years, there will be a breakthrough in this field which shows how abiogenesis could have more easily and more probably happened?

Also, how do you know that evolution has never been witnessed? What would you demand as an evolution event to witness? Before 100 or so odd years ago, evolution wasn't even an idea. Prior to this, evolution could have been witnessed and dismissed. Prior to an alphabet, evolution could have been witnessed and forgotten. We are dealing with 100 years of time, which quite possibly isn't enough. Also, there are a lot of areas of the world that even in the past 100 years, people aren't around in. New species are discovered every day in some parts of South America, how old these species are nobody knows. This isn't something that makes a loud bang when it happens, so it may take some time before further evidence is discovered...

1,285 posted on 12/29/2002 7:16:59 AM PST by B. Rabbit
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To: B. Rabbit
Will you concede that there might be another way for evolution/abiogenesis to proceed?

No, I will not. It is impossible as my post shows. It is all based on thoroughly proven scientific evidence. Now this is the thing about materialists - they are always bluffing hoping that the opponents cannot back up their statements. Seems to me that if you:

cannot refute some of the evidence or figures displayed in this post only because my studies and pursuits lie elsewhere.

Then you should not be making statements like the following which you made in Post# 1272 .

Abiogenesis has not been scientifically disproven. This is a lie.

1,302 posted on 12/29/2002 10:00:14 AM PST by gore3000
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