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To: gore3000
There is design to art, there is no design to the Grand Canyon in the same sense. It did not arise to impress those looking at it. A painting is designed to convey a thought, a feeling, the Grand Canyon while it may awe those who look at it was not designed to provide the view but just to get water from one place to another.

You're making yourself very suspect in my eyes. Backtracking to your original argument about the universe being like a work of art and melding it to the above response, you are saying that the universe is designed to convey a thought or feeling and to impress those looking at it? This is what you're saying? Absurd. You see order in the universe, and so do I. But you take it to the extreme and say that there must be a designer. This is a irrational jump in reasoning. The universe HAS to be a certain way. It's this way. To immediately make a jump to creator is the easy thing to do, I admit, but I want proof. Hard evidence just like you demand from evolutionists. Show me the money, gore3000. Show me the evidence which you demand from me which makes your theory so obviously correct in your eyes.

1,158 posted on 12/28/2002 9:01:57 AM PST by B. Rabbit
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To: B. Rabbit
There is design to art, there is no design to the Grand Canyon in the same sense. It did not arise to impress those looking at it. A painting is designed to convey a thought, a feeling, the Grand Canyon while it may awe those who look at it was not designed to provide the view but just to get water from one place to another.-me-

You're making yourself very suspect in my eyes. Backtracking to your original argument about the universe being like a work of art and melding it to the above response, you are saying that the universe is designed to convey a thought or feeling and to impress those looking at it? This is what you're saying? Absurd.

Yes it is totally absurd to say that the purpose of the Universe or the Grand Canyon is just for us to look at it and be awed. You certainly need a course in reading comprehension and no honest person that reads my statement above would think I said that. Seems that not being able to disprove my statements you try to twist them around. A very dishonest form of argument.

1,238 posted on 12/28/2002 8:38:24 PM PST by gore3000
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