Evolution Disclaimer Supported

The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

[viaveritasvita]

Time to go shopping!!

Wouldn't the 2nd law of thermo have disintegrated even your oldest tie???

[B. Rabbit]

It's a lost cause for conservatives // conservatism . . .

if consevatives can not deal with lies // liberalism - - -

. . . on it's own turf!

So science is liberal, strict adherence to writings thousands of years old is conservative. It is easy to change the labels of liberalism and conservatism to whatever you want without backing it up, but it just doesn't make sense. Tell me why thinking evolution is a valid scientific theory is liberal (using proper paragraphing, sentence structure, and punctuation) and why your beliefs are inherently conservative. You need to read the definitions of these words.

[edsheppa]

...material only means excluding immaterial explanations...

That sounds pretty circular. For my part energy and eletric fields, let alone quantum probability amplitudes, are no more material concepts than God. Every theory must have undefined terms. It seems reasonable to call them immaterial.

The difference that most deevos don't grasp is the structure in which these immaterial terms are embedded. Their behaviors are described and constrained by theory and connected to reality in a tangible way. To most deevos, doing such with God would be blasphemy and, since it's all about feelings, missing the point.

[longshadow]

... Seven Spanish Angles....

Angles?

Acute or obtuse?

;-)

[viaveritasvita]

"...the theory of Continental Drift and Plate Tectonics is as well false?"

Can one use the word "false" in the same sentence with "theory?"

[edsheppa]

Morality is universal and absolute.

Oh? I don't think history backs that up either assertion.

[PatrickHenry]

Wouldn't the 2nd law of thermo have disintegrated even your oldest tie???

Polyester. Long-lasting. Stylish too.

[B. Rabbit]

But you referred to the "god of creation." Surely all religions (those with a creation model, that is) consider the Creator in the proper noun form vs. the gods of the sun or fertility rites or reason or rain, etc.

Is this really what you want to talk about? I promise to capitalize God from now on when referring to the God of Creation from now on, if it will make you happier. I am not trying to offend, and it makes no difference to me. Ok?

[f.Christian]

Evolution is - - -

- - - thought // logic - - - less - - -

. . . babble . . .

. . . any rubbish passes for science ! ! !

[tpaine]

HOW OLD IS THE EARTH?.
2952 -PatrickHenry-


Approximately 6000 years old.
2955 -vvv-

Now I care, I relly really do.
- Get help.

[B. Rabbit]

Can one use the word "false" in the same sentence with "theory?"

Can we stop dancing? Is it a valid scientific theory? Do you believe that it occurs?

[viaveritasvita]

Thank you for the Scripture and forgive my delay in responding.

I would add these as well:

John 1:5 – The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Romans 3:3 - What if some did not believe? Shall their unbelief make...God without effect?

[edsheppa]

If the particle physicists find an intellectual wormhole that connects our matter to other universes via particle flipping or dark matter manipulation, then maybe there will be something to talk about

Well, I think you're going to far. Speculation is an essential (and fun) part of the scientific process. What's important is to have the right attitude about it. It's an art really.

[Condorman]

None other than Leonardo da Vinci authored a refutation of the Flood Theory back around 1500.

What about the Great Flood mentioned in the Bible? Leonardo doubted the existence of a single worldwide flood, noting that there would have been no place for the water to go when it receded. He also noted that "if the shells had been carried by the muddy deluge they would have been mixed up, and separated from each other amidst the mud, and not in regular steps and layers -- as we see them now in our time." He noted that rain falling on mountains rushed downhill, not uphill, and suggested that any Great Flood would have carried fossils away from the land, not towards it. He described sessile fossils such as oysters and corals, and considered it impossible that one flood could have carried them 300 miles inland, or that they could have crawled 300 miles in the forty days and nights of the Biblical flood.
Source: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/vinci.html

[f.Christian]

Tell me what science you see in evo morph and magic!


. . . "perhaps Haiti." - - - it all makes sense ! ! !

[Fester Chugabrew]

"My favorite example is the card deck. Shuffle a deck of 52 thoroughly and lay it out. Whatever it is you're seeing, it had one chance in 52 factorial (52 x 51 x 50 x 49 x 48 ... x 1) of being there. Wow! Not very likely!"

If this is your concept, albeit on a large scale, of how the universe and history is unfolding, you've taken your self out of the realm of predicatibility, and by extension out of the realm of science.

So which do you want? Predicatability based on laws that were established from the start, or laws that developed themselves out of a state of total unpredictability? Guess which of these two makes most sense to real scientists, common man, and the Bible?

[PatrickHenry]

None other than Leonardo da Vinci authored a refutation of the Flood Theory back around 1500.

Ol' Satan must have had his hooks into Leonardo, big time!

[BMCDA]

Low probabilities are not enough.

Exactly.
And if I see that claim again that low probability means mathematically impossible I'll get the creeps, that's fer sure.

[B. Rabbit]

Tell me what science you see in evo morph and magic!

. . . "perhaps Haiti." - - - it all makes sense ! ! !

I've seen you post this at least 5 times. It does nothing but take up space. The Haiti reference is obscure and unimportant and leads me to believe that you aren't really thinking.

[BMCDA]

Aw, the Second Law of Thermodynamics argument again!
Is this nonsense never going to die out?
Shucks, I guess as long as people are going to cite Henry M. Morris it won't.