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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J

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To: gore3000

Are you sure you want a response to it?

Barring the "age of the earth" question I can't think of a time you've been reluctant to express an opinion. By all means respond.

2,341 posted on 01/02/2003 8:23:50 PM PST by Condorman
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To: Piltdown_Woman
That would be a wise thing to do, as NONE of the evolutionists posting to these threads is a Stalinist Communist.

Heaven forbid, they are just good'ol plain commies eh?

2,342 posted on 01/02/2003 8:26:43 PM PST by gore3000
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To: VadeRetro
A What do you see in the picture? placemarker for me.
2,343 posted on 01/02/2003 8:32:15 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Condorman
By all means respond.

This could be good!! LOL
2,344 posted on 01/02/2003 8:34:49 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Alamo-Girl
As long as you have brought up Kolmogorov, I would like to point out that his papers (of 1940) favorable to evolutionary theory were "censored" in 1953 by the anti-darwinists. Vide: Uspekhi Matematischeski Nauk, 7 (1953) pp. 194-200.

In addition, Serge Bernstein's book on probability was not reprented on the same grounds. Even quantum mechanics was not fully accepted in the USSR because of its inherent indetermancy. The "Communist State" allowed of no "random" components. Every thing was designed by the Party.

To be fair, Kolmogorov was only censored but the evolutionary biologist Vil'yams was executed for holding Darwinist views. (I wonder if Vil'yams's family came originally from England.)

2,345 posted on 01/02/2003 8:35:13 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Condorman
If you wish to see it for yourself though, just go on top of a 20 story building and jump. You will observe it very clearly.-me-

Nope. You will observe the effects of gravity.

Semantics. Gravity is a scientific fact. An undeniable fact by even the most obtuse. Evolution is not a fact and it has never been observed in any scientific manner. Evolution proposes the tranformation of species, such has never been observed. Gravity proposes the pulling of a smaller mass towards a greater mass, this is observed on a daily basis by every human being on earth. So there are scientific theories which are absolutely true and evolution is not one of them.

2,346 posted on 01/02/2003 8:38:22 PM PST by gore3000
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To: whattajoke
In the interests of equal time, we must remember the theory that the Souls of Men came into this World from the Sacred Sipapu, led by the Flute-Playing Locust. The location of this Sipapu is in what is now called Northern New Mexico. Its exact location is unknown because Coyote covered it with a stone. However I personally think it's close to a well-known ski-resort.
2,347 posted on 01/02/2003 8:39:31 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: gore3000
g3...

Evolutionists are thugs, the same kind of thugs that all ideologues and totalitarians are.
2,348 posted on 01/02/2003 8:43:18 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Condorman
1. To each according to his needs.
2. Love thy neighbor/I am my brother's keeper.
3. The fittest survive.

Yes. The first three (#1 and #2) are man-made commands. The fourth (#3) is only an observation concerning reproductive plenitude.
2,349 posted on 01/02/2003 8:44:11 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Junior
That's no Hammarskjold!
2,350 posted on 01/02/2003 8:51:53 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Condorman
What question of yours has not been addressed?

Of mine there have been plenty, just to list a few:
1. what Nobel Prize for biological work has tended to prove evolution? I asked that one of you and you just responded with a challenge which was met - and of course ignored.
2. how does a species change modes of reproduction while continuing to reproduce?
3. show that the bacterial flagellum is not irreducibly complex and does not disprove evolution.
4. show one single example of a species which has been proven to have transformed itself into a more complex species.
5. show a single example of a mutation which has created a totally new favorable function in an organism.
6. give a hypothesis showing how abiogenesis would be possible according to presently known scientific facts.

Need more?

2,351 posted on 01/02/2003 8:52:03 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
The hypothesis that there are infinite universes for example is totally unscientific because it claims something to have happened about which we know absolutely nothing about. -YOU

Yup, just like you said. Your argument there says perfectly that multiple universes are just as unlikely to be fact as religion. After all, "it claims something to have happened which we know absolutely nothing about." -ME

Now that is a pretty ridiculous statement. Are you denying your own existence? Do you hate God so much that to deny him you are willing to say you do not even exist? Are you so far out as to say such a thing? -YOU

WHAT? Please explain how you made the conclusion that I doubt my own existence or doubt the existence of the universe. Intelligent Design and Multiple Universes are not the competing theories here. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE SARCASM, ALL I SAID WAS THAT THE MULTIPLE UNIVERSE THEORY WAS JUST AS 'FAITH BASED' AS ANY RELIGION. THERE IS NO SUBSTANTIAL, HARD EVIDENCE FOR EITHER. You deny your own religion when you laugh at theories that have no evidence.

Do you or do you not agree that there is no hard evidence which supports any of the world religions and therefore creationism? I will concede all day, and all of the night, that there is no evidence which supports multiple universes.

2,352 posted on 01/02/2003 8:52:26 PM PST by B. Rabbit
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
Of course you and your friends will hypocritically say that you had nothing to do with it while you dance on the ashes of another silenced voice. [g3k in his insanity mode]

LOL!

Yeah, right; oh Wildly Elliptical one.

Only G3k could manage to mangle the reality of Ted getting banned in yet another incarnation after having been banned for his misbehavior as "medved" and turn it into some sort of Evolutionary conspiratorial pogram.

In G3k's little twisted delusional world, he probably thinks we took out our guns and threatened Ted: "Register under a bunch of phoney screen names to mask your identity as a previously banned FReeper, or we'll shoot your ASCII bat, Splifford."

It never occurs to him that Ted managed to get himself banned the first time by his own hand, just as his new incarnations are banned because the management of FR doesn't like banned FReepers sneaking back in under phoney names.

Oh, yes; one last thing -- as for "silencing" a critic, how many voices is Ted supposed to get on FR (the rest of us have only one each.) Is he entitled to extra screen names for some reason? Is he exempt from the same rules we have to follow?

And finally, don't think for a moment that the Tedster ISN'T still with us.....

2,353 posted on 01/02/2003 8:54:33 PM PST by longshadow
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To: webber
Let's see, "In the beginning God (Aleph-Tau) Created the Heavens and the Earth." So that the discussion of beginnings belongs to the Bible, DOESN'T IT. So you so-called evolutionists stay out the beginnings area. IT belongs to "Religion".

Bwaaa-haa-ha-ha. Yeah. You got it. It says it right there in the Bible so we're all wrong.

2,354 posted on 01/02/2003 8:57:15 PM PST by B. Rabbit
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To: Condorman
Unless you can demonstrate that Marx's philosophy at the beginning of his publishing career is significantly different than that at the end of his publishing career you have proved nothing.

That is not the point that has been made. The point being made is that evolution and Communism are birds of a feather and go together. They are both atheistic and materialistic and give backing to each others views. Which came first is irrelevant to the point. That they do go together is proven by both chester's quote of the correspondence between Darwin and Marx in Post# 2040 and my post showing quotes of how much Marx was delighted by the Origins in Post # 2309

2,355 posted on 01/02/2003 8:58:51 PM PST by gore3000
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To: f.Christian
'Free' anything is way over estimated...especially will---sin(gravity)!

And there it is. The demonizing of freedom, and most importantly free will. This says quite clearly that subconsciously, you want to be controlled.

2,356 posted on 01/02/2003 9:00:30 PM PST by B. Rabbit
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To: f.Christian
Gravity---lighter elements go up!

But beryllium falls like boron.

2,357 posted on 01/02/2003 9:01:39 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: viaveritasvita
We are given sufficient evidence, not coercive evidence.

Very true indeed. The evidence is there for all to see but to those who willfully close their eyes to it.

2,358 posted on 01/02/2003 9:02:28 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Doc Savage; Soliton
predicted the formation of "life" from amino acids within the next 20 years

Such a prediction by soliton is utterly ridiculous and completely unscientific. It is RNA that produces amino acids. Amino acids do not produce either RNA or DNA, they are just constituent parts of proteins when assembled properly by living things. You can take all the amino acids you want, all the proteins you wish and you will never get a single strand of DNA let alone a living organism.

2,359 posted on 01/02/2003 9:08:01 PM PST by gore3000
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To: B. Rabbit
Have some resistance B-lackhole rabbit!
2,360 posted on 01/02/2003 9:08:38 PM PST by f.Christian
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