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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^
| 12/11/02
| WILL SENTELL
Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J
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To: PatrickHenry
1. To each according to his needs.
2. Love thy neighbor/I am my brother's keeper.
3. The fittest survive.
One of these things is not like the other.
To: PatrickHenry
To: Condorman; PatrickHenry
What's 200 posts among friends? ;)
To: whattajoke
"Amazingly, the other 'big 3' of world religions differ in their own creation myths . . ."Yes indeed. Would you consider the differences to be dramatic? Exclusive of one another? Are you driving at the point that, in order to open the classroom to creationist considerations we must necessarily open the classroom to every single religious view on the matter?
"We made from water everything living? Will they not then believe?"
Looking at the surface of things, one would never imagine that living beings are made chiefly of water. Does this saying hold true by scientific testing? How much of the human body, for example, is made of water?
To: Condorman
Big brother/science...
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!
Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!
Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc/liberal/govt-religion/rhetoric)...
Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern UPSIDE/REVERSE DOWN age
To: general_re
Placemarker.
To: general_re
Yes. Along with a long tradition of Christian socialism - more than a hundred years old, in some cases - an example of which I linked to there. Right. As you may recall, whenever the false "Darwin-Marx" issue was raised, I used to post a link to a website which was titled "Is the Bible's God a Communist?" That link wasn't posted to bash the bible [attention, moderator!] but in order to show that communism has an ancient history which is totally unrelated to Darwin. That website has many passages from scripture that are ... well, hardly encouraging for a free-enterpriser. But one of the creationist crowd managed to get such posts deleted, with the complicity of one of the pro-creationist mods. So I won't post that link again. But you can do a Google search on "IS THE BIBLE'S GOD A COMMUNIST?" and locate it for yourself.
The point of this [attention, moderator!] is that communism existed long before Darwin, and its doctrines are not related to the theory of evolution, all claims to the contrary being purest nonsense.
To: BikerNYC
If they do that, they should have a "disclaimer" for the Theory of Covalent Bonds, the Theory of General Relativity, and the Theory of Stellar Evolution In fact, everything in science should be labeled a theory, since it is always open to review and alteration because of new evidence.
This is one of the arguments that is always being used by evolutionists. While technically true, most of these have been proven through controlled repeatable experiments, which is the heart of the scientific method, and therefore they have a degree of certainty that cannot be claimed for evolution. The ones which do not have experimental proofs often are stated as being just theories, and no one has a problem with that. So the situation is kind of the opposite of what you're saying, i.e. evolution has to have a special status and be stated as a proven fact when it's not.
To: PatrickHenry
Morhping mater/life/society is evolution---COMMUNISM!
To: general_re; Condorman
What's 200 posts among friends? My error was grevious, but it's better than 1 x 10 followed by 39,999 zeros.
To: f.Christian
Perchance do you live in fear of the STARK FIST of REMOVAL and suffer from a shortage of SLACK?
To: f.Christian; All
AMAZING!! We have made a breakthrough with our deranged Hawaiian poster, f.christian! Here is a post of his from a month ago, one which he cut and pasted several times over and over again:
fchristian a month ago: "matter/life out of nothing...popping---is evolution!"
To which I replied stating that his description was more in line with creationism. Apparently he has quietly changed his wording to be a bit more in line with evolution now!
fchristian today: spontaneous/morphing matter/life is science?
Yes, he still has the word spontaneous in there, but he's slowly learning/adapting. They must have changed meds on him... or I'm being a bit too optimistic.
To: whattajoke
Out of nothing is evolution...
out of God is Creation/science!
To: whattajoke
"We've secretly replaced FreeRepublic's regular f.Christian with new Folger's crystals. Let's watch what happens."
To: Condorman
To: f.Christian
Perchance do you live in fear of the STARK FIST of REMOVAL and suffer from a shortage of SLACK?
2211 posted on 01/02/2003 10:37 AM PST by Condorman
Big Brother/science is fascism/COMMUNISM...tyranny(anti-America/American)!
To: gore3000
To: Condorman
One of these things is not like the other. Remember the old Star Trek episode, when Kirk drives the destructive probe insane? "Must analyze ... an-a-lyze! ... ANALYZE!!!"
To: Fester Chugabrew
Are you driving at the point that, in order to open the classroom to creationist considerations we must necessarily open the classroom to every single religious view on the matter?
Well done. That's exactly what I'd propose. Of course, who knows how many African creation myths there are in addition to the hundreds of others. The important thing is this: Whether a scientist be Buddhist, Christian, Hindi, Inuit, Incan or Moslem, they still agree on the universality of evolution. Their religious ideas are kept at home and at the church/temple/mosque/fire ring. And so it should be!
How much of the human body, for example, is made of water?
While my point wasn't to show that any other creation myth is somehow "better" than christianity's, since you asked the question, and since I'm not sure if you're being rhetorical, water makes up the vast majority of our body mass.
To: PatrickHenry
That link wasn't posted to bash the bible [attention, moderator!] but in order to show that communism has an ancient history which is totally unrelated to Darwin. That website has many passages from scripture that are ... well, hardly encouraging for a free-enterpriser. Indeed. Some very serious examinations the intersection of socialism and religion have been undertaken, particularly in the context of Christianity. It seems entirely fair to link to an online edition of Thomas Headlam's "The Socialist's Church", for example - one may agree or disagree with the notion of Christian socialism, but it is hardly bashing religion to point out that it exists.
To: f.Christian
out of God is Creation/science!
I agree 100%. (except for the word, "science.") "Out of god is creation..." and therefore creationism is to be discussed in houses of god, ie. churches. NOT schools. Perhaps, after >2200 posts, we have arrived at the conclusion.
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