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To: Jeff Head
"But these folks are serious and will go the distance."

Those folks -- starting with this organizer -- are going to get thrown in stir.
Once incarcerated in *their* penal nuthouses do you realize what'll happen to 'em?
I needn't tell you what the predominant ethnic background of an overwhelming majority of inmates presently are in those jails, either.

What's almost as bad is how the decent, honest & concerned citizen (down there, anyway) cannot rely on instruments [like], "Jury Nulification" anymore either, in the event they're forced to stand trial?
Regardless how trumped-up the charges may be; &, they will be.

Remember who'll be sitting on those juries in majority numbers, now.
The *enemy* is firmly entrenched -- within -- & in so many ways I cannot count the ways.

For chrissakes just let ONE of these militia members HAVE TO defend themselves -- & it's gonna happen, alright -- and in the process shoot one of these illegals.
The trial sheisters & Liberal-Socialist America-hating pols will drop outa the saguaros by the score.
All salivating at the prospect of sueing & *then* snuffing *all* of these people into oblivion.
(~& again keep in your mind who it is sitting on most of the juries in that part of the country.)

"The wheels may be off...but they are going to try and do their part to either keep whats left on, or put them back on there on that part of the border."

See?
This is "the" A#1 point where you & I have always met at loggerheads, Jeff Head.
I simply cannot see the sense in people marching -- knowingly -- into a hail of *fire*.
You -- appear -- to find some kind of *honor* in doing so?
You're a genuine anachronism, Jeff Head.

While I've always admired your steadfast beliefs & principles?
I just think there's got to be another, better way.
In the very least, I'd have to say it's about time we realize when the opposition forces begin, "talking" about something -- anything -- socially?
They intend to do whateverinthehell they're talking about, soon.
And ONLY BECAUSE they've already formed an ironclad strategy from A to Z thought-out well in advance of their ever saying a word as well as all of 'em -- ie their media, pols, sycophants, quislings & plants -- being on the same page.

Once these guys start to move, they've consistantly left our side, "reacting" continually on the defensive.
Then, we're hopelessly tied-up, mucked-down fielding their well prepared PR implemented accusations, smears, & assualts while their main thrust blows right by.
Their MO is gettin' really old.

Now if we have to fight -- & that'd always be the last resort -- I happen to believe the way that's done is the exact way ol' Gen GPatton once said, "Make the other poor SOB die for HIS country!" [read: cause]
Means once something starts, it's all the way or nothing a'tall.
The Liberal-Socialists additionally appear to have our (~& all others of our cut) number because they're extremely skilled in never pushing too far; not, until for the cause, it's too late.

"Very couragous individuals."

Yup; & a dying breed of American, to be sure.
Over just the past ten years the Liberal-Socialists have methodically picked-off those with this kind of spirit one by one; &, have done so in a variety of different ways: physcially *&* psycologically.
(Frankly, I'm stunned you've lasted this long, to be perfectly honest.)

"I hope they have the support of some of their local officials (like Sheriff, County Commissioners and at least one Judge). That made a HUGE difference at Jarbidge, NV."

Jarbridge was NOT the same kind of thing as this illegal immigrant issue!
Jarbridge couldn't possibly be spun into a, "racial" or "racist" matter by the Liberal-Socialists.
Jarbridge was one of the citizen v.s. the feds, as I recall. Right?

Just you watch what happens in this instance; just watch.
When the fecal-matter hits the impeler -- & it's gonna as sure as God made li'l green apples -- just watch these pols -- from bottom to top -- perform a state-of-the-art CYA.
These people are heading directly under the proverbial bus.

"We didn't have it at Klamath and so it as a lot more dicey. But enough people flocked to that cause and raised enough clamor that the Federal government backed off and finally did the right thing. Perhaps the same will occur there..."

I always maintained the correct *approach* at Klamath could've drawn the feds to the bargaining table where upon a dialog could be opened & everyone's needs be met.
~& no that's not some half-assed "conflict resolution" bullshit, either.
It's common country horse sense.

...but only if enough of us become involved and raise the clamor IMHO."

That'll remain to be seen; as, I *think* this POTUS has other ideas concerning the situation?
And I dare-say you've the same notion I have what the man's *fix* might just be, too.

...& we won't be happy about it, either.

43 posted on 12/10/2002 8:30:26 AM PST by Landru
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To: Landru; Jeff Head; dalebert; mafree
What's almost as bad is how the decent, honest & concerned citizen (down there, anyway) cannot rely on instruments [like], "Jury Nulification" anymore either, in the event they're forced to stand trial? Regardless how trumped-up the charges may be; &, they will be.

I'm not sure, but I don't think a member of the Bar is allowed to promote "Jury Nulification". If an attorney ever did that he would have a difficult time trying and winning the most simple case in that judges courtroom.

46 posted on 12/10/2002 8:43:03 AM PST by B4Ranch
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