A perfect example of why a debate or discussion with you is a waste of time. You start your post with an assertion completely lacking in validity. Clearly there is a difference between Iraq, where the government claimed a turnout of 97.3% and 100% support for Hussein, and South Africa, where the ANC garnered a reasonable 63% of the vote. If you are unable or unwilling to see the difference between these two elections and political systems, then I am wasting my time discussion politics with you.