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To: MistyCA
So we sit and twiddle our thumbs and wait until we are forced out of our homes and off our property.

That has already happened to lots of people. Many, many others are dropouts and we are paying for them through social security disability, and on and on.

The only way I see things getting better is for the cost of living to go way down. Even then there wouldn't be the type of jobs to support it for enough people.

Come on. We are living on borrowed time and borrowed money. It won't last forever.

This is a problem than can't be solved by fighting. Sorry I feel that way. I don't know where it will end.

In the meantime, I think people who are in thinking mode should think as innovatively as they can and try to make their own jobs somehow and not depend on corporate or government daddies who only enslave you in the long run.

We have almost 1/5 of our population having jobs paid for out of tax revenues at the federal, state, and local levels. These jobs contribute NOTHING to the GNP. Then we have thousands of jobs which suck up money in the health and insurance fields. All necessary, I suppose, but produce no revenue. Most of the rest of the jobs pander to people who don't or can't do things for themselves like service, carpet installation/cleaning, etc.

Farmers are another category and the average person can never hope to break into that field.

What kinds of jobs are left for our kids? Even college is going to be no guarantee to get and keep a job that will keep one in a decent lifestyle in the future.

46 posted on 11/30/2002 10:02:33 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
I agree with something you said.....I have always taught my kids to create their own work...control their own destiny. There are reasons why I can understand your defeatest attitude, but it is defeatest, nonetheless. :)
49 posted on 11/30/2002 10:14:00 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: Aliska
This is a problem than can't be solved by fighting. Sorry I feel that way. I don't know where it will end.

The problem that we have is not the fact that we allow immigration, it is the fact that they are coming in illegally, and in too great a number to assimilate in a organized and careful way.

This must stop now! The stability of our governments at the state and local level is at stake. Even national programs are being sapped of scarce resources.

The safety of our people is at stake, and our children are at risk.

50 posted on 11/30/2002 10:16:13 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Aliska
I agree with most of what everyone is saying concerning Mexican illegal immigration. However, I believe that most of you are still under the illusion that every single job taken by them is one less job for an American. Theoretically, that is true. But many of the jobs that Mexican illegal immigrants are willing to do, are jobs that many Americans, with their entitlement-minded psyche, simply don't want to do. We have grown much too comfortable in this country.

Take the example from my turf here in New York City. As a condition for receiving welfare, former Mayor Guiliani had required receipients to be willing to work. The homeless, too. However, many of their respective advocates were deriding this requirement as inhumane and lacking in dignity. Imagine this, making a person sweep trash in Central Park is somehow less humane than sleeping on the street, dirty, smelly, strung out on drugs, digging through dumpsters and garbage cans for half-eaten, maggot-infested food. Sound ridiculous? IT IS! Unfortunately, that is the mindset of a lot of the underachievers in our society.

Therefore, if we can't even get desperate people to do some of these less than challenging jobs, how are we going to get more arrogant and comfortable people to work as janitors, or in a cannery, or picking lettuce. We need to reinstill a sense of duty and responsibility for people, not just privilege. Otherwise, Mexicans will continue to come in here and, quite frankly, we will continue to want them to come and the goverment with turn a blind eye to it, as they mostly have.
524 posted on 12/03/2002 10:08:24 AM PST by PARodrig
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