Calling for order? Did you miss anyone? I thought I saw a thread where several were beating up on Pres Bush; maybe you need to go find that one.
Discussions that don't please you, will take place in spite of your objections.
My complaint was not with the existence of a discussion. It is with the rather ugly tone I find some people on one side of this debate are directing towards those who express disagreement with them using. Shouting down those that are expressing "politically incorrect" thoughts or opinions is a staple of the Left.