[RodgerD]

It's okay...they aren't all evil.

More straw Chief?

Of course they're not all evil. No one with any sense maintains that they are.

What can reasonably be said, however, is that massive, uncontrolled migration from countries such as Mexico is not a good thing - and its negative impact upon schools is just one of the more well-established signs that it isn't.

I'm sorry if dealing with issues isn't as much fun as clapping ones hands like a seal for some rose-colored-glasses article or for Dubya's pander amnesties - or as fun as sneering at the "upstart" Congressman.

[CWOJackson]

"More straw Chief?"

Sure, the Vietnamese are responsible for our storm drain problems...we never had them before they were here.

"Of course they're not all evil. No one with any sense maintains that they are."

Do yourself a favor, don't interject the word sense into a thread where you and your friends find it impossible to accept that the Hispanics have had a positive impact on their community in Indianapolis...remember that one minor nagging detail, this thread is about Indianapolis.

"What can reasonably be said, however, is that massive, uncontrolled migration from countries such as Mexico is not a good thing - and its negative impact upon schools is just one of the more well-established signs that it isn't."

Did I mention that this thread is about Indianapolis? Oh right, we don't want to discuss that, we need to turn this into another Mexican immigrants bashing thread. However, if you do take the time to examine Irish immigration, particularly during the famine years, you will find that is was massive and unrestricted (which served the same purpose as uncontrolled). Guess what, the very same arguments were made about those third world Irish.

"I'm sorry if dealing with issues isn't as much fun as clapping ones hands like a seal for some rose-colored-glasses article or for Dubya's pander amnesties - or as fun as sneering at the "upstart" Congressman."

I don't know, perhaps I'll give it a try one day. It does sound so much more fun then the blame it all on Pedro method you're working under.

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Forget it Rodger...CWO doesn't seem to get that massive influx of immigrants has the same impact to schools that say housing development unhindered does. So am I also a bigot to fight the overdevelopment in my community or to vote down school levies when overdevelopment is left unchecked? Which group pray tell am I targeting there in this affluent 90% anglo neighborhood when I am fighting to slow down more homes for affluent anglos? He can't see beyond wanting to find a bigot that he doesn't understand that sheer numbers of students affects the schools and this is an nationality that by their cultural norms and standards bring with them a lot of children to inundate the school systems. I fight this kind of inundation no matter what ethnicity or situation it comes in because left unchecked it destroys neighborhoods, not builds them. But let's not let these facts stand in the way of the few here who want to pretend that anyone with anything negative to say about immigration or overcrowding schools is a bigot.