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To: fortheDeclaration
You really did not answer my request.

Place these terms in sequence and indicate whether the sequence is logical temporal or both. justification, regeneration and faith. If temporal give some indication of the amount of time that may intervene.

I'll give you my response (as an example).

Regeneration
Faith
Justification.

Purely logical sequence all three are sumultaneous. There is no intervening time.

ftD. let me help you. You say faith is first. So is it...

Faith
Regeneration
Justification

OR

Faith
Justification
Regeneration

You say faith precedes the rest (I take this is temporally as well as logically) how about the other two in the sequence?

2,513 posted on 12/16/2002 6:06:36 AM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej; xzins
faith is first (that is what we have to do-accept the free gift Jn.1:12)

At the moment of faith then one is regenerated, justified at the same moment. I would place the logical order as faith, justification and regeneration

The fact that Calvinism makes regeneration preceed faith,(even logically) is because they believe it is election that saves and not faith in Christ.

We believe we are the 'elect' because we have believed, you believe you believed because you were the elect.

3,105 posted on 12/21/2002 8:51:02 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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