[drstevej]

Ignore previous post (cut and paste placement error).

It was a response to your statement...

***Beside the fact that only one translation I found (NRS) translated it as the 'begotten' as the perfect (has been), every other translation translated it as is (NASb, NIV, KJV, Geneva,) ***

My point is that is is indeed a perfect despite your observation of translations.

Place these terms in sequence and indicate whether the sequence is logical temporal or both. justification, regeneration and faith. If temporal give some indication of the amount of time that may intervene.

[fortheDeclaration]

My point is that is is indeed a perfect despite your observation of translations.

Granted it is a perfect, but the translators knew that as well. Clearly context had some imput in how they decided to translate that perfect (as it often does)

Place these terms in sequence and indicate whether the sequence is logical temporal or both. justification, regeneration and faith. If temporal give some indication of the amount of time that may intervene.

First faith and then all the others (regeneration, justification, adoption, etc) happen immediately at the moment you believe.

The point is that faith must precede salvation, since it is by faith that we are regenerated,(born again) we are not regenerated to have faith.