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To: fortheDeclaration; xzins
Election, not the Cross, is the basis of the salvation of the Calvinist, since they are saved before they believe anything!

...even before they believe in "Calvinism"? Then what is the point of believing in anything?

BTW, if the "Election" were held today, would you be saved? Would I? How can anyone know for sure?

2,418 posted on 12/15/2002 9:00:10 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: wai-ming
I believe in elect wai because that is what the bible teaches...It teaches He chose you before the foundation of the earth..You love him because He loved you first..

The faith that you express in Him is a gift from him otherwise you save your self..

Jesus taught it

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Peter believed it

1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Paul believed it

Col 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

Wai your salvation is no accident God Chose you ..

2,425 posted on 12/15/2002 10:51:55 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: wai-ming
And wai ..if that does not humble you nothing will
2,426 posted on 12/15/2002 10:52:33 AM PST by RnMomof7
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