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To: fortheDeclaration
I've heard this before, but the argument is a non-sequiter. Belief is the sine qua non of the Christian's conversion. Election is the mechanism that makes that possible -- the means by which God takes sinners hostile to Him, and brings them to the point that they embrace the Gospel.

Thats what we Calvinists are trying to say, though sometimes, I suspect, our words get in the way.

2,410 posted on 12/15/2002 5:40:17 AM PST by jude24
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To: jude24; xzins
Thats what we Calvinists are trying to say, though sometimes, I suspect, our words get in the way.

It isn't complicated when you follow what the Bible says, 'faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God'.

Only the Calvinistic notion of total inability (not depravity) makes Regeneration necessary before faith, since a spiritual 'dead' man cannot believe anything about God until he is first born again.

That is not a 'logical' point, that is a 'theological' point, which separates Calvinists from non-Calvinists who believe in salvation by faith and faith alone and then one is regenerated, justified, redeemed, adopted, etc.

2,511 posted on 12/16/2002 5:49:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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