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To: Alan Chapman
By the way, perhaps I should restate this. I support much of the Libertarian platform. If I thought there was a good chance to get a Libertarian elected I'd probably vote for him/her.

However, I have watched elections for a while. I watched Ross Perot give us Clinton. I also watched Ralph Nader split the liberal vote and prevent Al Whore from being in charge.

I view most libertarian votes to be 1/2 of a vote for the Democrat - since that is the end result. Nothing is worse for the nation than having a liberal in a position to implement their schemes.

Also, when is the last time you saw a Democrat sponsor a meaningful tax cut? Or conceled carry legislation? Or a tough bill that would mean punnishment for violent criminals?

You may view Republicans as not pulling in the same direction, but the ones that are really trying to pull is down are the Democrats!

MARK A SITY
605 posted on 11/10/2002 2:00:28 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
If I thought there was a good chance to get a Libertarian elected I'd probably vote for him/her.

Herein lies the problem. You expect candidates to win without voting for them.

I watched Ross Perot give us Clinton.

What evidence do you have that Perot voters would've voted for Bush? For all you know most of the Perot voters might've been former non-voters.

...when is the last time you saw a Democrat sponsor a meaningful tax cut?

When is the last time you saw Republicans reduce government?

Or conceled carry legislation?

When is the last time you saw Republicans repeal any gun-control?

Or a tough bill that would mean punnishment for violent criminals?

I've watched Republicans enact laws that punish people for not committing any crimes at all.

608 posted on 11/10/2002 2:42:11 PM PST by Alan Chapman
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To: logic101.net
Libertarians managed to get an initiative on the ballot in Massachusetts to repeal the state income tax. Republicans could have helped pass the measure but instead chose to prove what Libertarians have been saying all along and help defeat it instead. Both Republican governor Jane Swift and Republican governor-elect Mitt Romney publicly denounced the measure.

In Tennessee, Republican governor Don Sundquist ran for office on a campaign of no state income tax (Tenn is one of about 6 states without an income tax). After elected he failed to use his veto to reign in wasteful government spending and ran up an $800 million deficit. Then he tried to get a state income tax passed. He failed to get an income tax but succeeded in raising the sales tax. Some counties in Tennessee now enjoy a 10% sales tax.

Bush Sr. said, "Read my lips. No new taxes." You know what happened after that.

Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress from 1995 through 2001. The federal budget grew from $1.4 trillion to $2.1 trillion during that time.

Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress and the WH for most of 2001, until that one Republican senator defected to the Democrats (so he wouldn't have to pretend he supported limited government anymore). Republicans could've repealed the estate tax but instead decided to phase it out over 10 years. No gun-control was repealed.

Senator Phil Graham from Texas said on national TV that Social Security would be phased out in 65 years under the Republican plan.

614 posted on 11/10/2002 5:19:13 PM PST by Alan Chapman
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To: logic101.net
By the way, perhaps I should restate this. I support much of the Libertarian platform. If I thought there was a good chance to get a Libertarian elected I'd probably vote for him/her

I have reviewed your website and I notice there are no links to any sites which include instruction in Logic or Reasoning.

At your earliest convenience could you point me to some sites which might instruct me in these topics?

Many thanks.

Best regards,

616 posted on 11/10/2002 5:53:45 PM PST by Copernicus
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