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Of some of the posts on this thread, I think I like yours the most.

Here's the thing though... Libertarians want YOU to make those moral decisions in your life. History is litered with examples of societies who have fallen into decay and despotism AFTER they enacted goverments that tried to enforce some morality by government edict. This just plain doesn't work. It removes the consequences of a persons actions and negates any need for a person to formulate morals on their own. That's the short answer.

Would you really want someone like Bill Clinton using force of government to enact his "moral" code on the rest of us?

It's not that we feel having loose morals is a good thing. None of us see drug abuse as a good thing. What has spurred us to action is the fact that those in government have done far worse to whipe out some percieved "moral" bad. The ends does not justify the means if your "cure" is worse than the disease.

Who would you rather have making those moral decisions in your life? Yourself, or Hillary? Libertarians want you to make them and to live with the consequences of your actions. Hillary, and her ilk, think they know better than you.

What nonsense. The government is not some foreign occupation army inflicting their strange culture, religion, and way of life upon a hapless, subjugated people. Such an ideology plays well in the realm of science fiction, but hardly in adult politics.

Government bureaucrats from Mars decimate the 'hood

We have a right to determine what kind of a society we are to live in, what kind of a society we are to bequeath to our children.

Would you really want someone like Bill Clinton using force of government to enact his "moral" code on the rest of us?

Morality cannot be invented de novo by every human being that is born. That is like expecting each generation to reinvent the wheel without passing on accumulated wisdom.

Moral relativists who have ethics and are not simply hedonistic are probably skating on the morals that were instilled in them as children. But each generation that gets more and more "relativistic" means that each new generation has a weaker and weaker sense of morals instilled in them by their parents, and eventually societies break down for lack of moral ground rules, NOT for enforcing them.

Is murder relative? Is rape relative? Is stealing relative? Is lying under oath relative?

We get our laws from our morals that have been passed down through society, generally by organized religions as that is what is tough enough to stand through the winds of relativism and the fads of the day.

There are real moral truths about which behaviors in people lead to the decay and disintegration of societies and they are codified in The Ten Commandments.

I happen to believe these come from God and are His warnings to us that bad things happen when you don't heed these commandments. Like a physics professor explaining that if you jump off a sixty foot cliff onto rocks that you will probably die.

The Ten Commandments does not cover drugs. But I do sincerely and earnestly and thoughtfully believe that drug use by a large enough portion of society will lead to the destruction of that society.

And so my position on drug use is an intellectual and political position, not a religious one. Although at the heart of that position is a religious belief that it is important that people lead their lives with love and consideration for others, giving and helping others, as well as finding time for personal joy.