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To: seanc623
You didn't answer my question; where does it say we won't have a military?

I've already answered your question: Our national interests are bigger than the border of our country. If Iraq or some other loser nation decides it wants to stop the flow of oil to our country by military means and you're solely defending our borders, do you honestly believe that is an effective "defense"? Of course not. It's tantamount to not even having a military at all. And that is precisely my point. Libertarians want to roll back the clock on our role in the world at a time when it is simply impossible to do so.
366 posted on 11/05/2002 12:19:07 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000

I've already answered your question: Our national interests are bigger than the border of our country.

As far as national interests are concerned see my previous post.

If Iraq or some other loser nation decides it wants to stop the flow of oil to our country by military means and you're solely defending our borders, do you honestly believe that is an effective "defense"?

This is an interesting point, one that also came up when Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries "nationalized" their oil fields, effectively confiscating American property. The proper response for those American companies would have been to A) Sue the Saudi royal family in American courts for damages or B) Have their own private army (mercenaries) defend their property in these countries.

The wrong response is what you're suggesting- that our military bail out these oil companies who knew the risks they were taking setting up shop in these countries. If the Founders wanted the US military to have that role they would have written it into the Constitution. Many in the international banking community think our military should be at the disposal of private industry to protect their risky investments. They're wrong.

371 posted on 11/05/2002 12:34:33 PM PST by seanc623
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To: Bush2000
So you're saying that taking the property of another nation, just because we "need" it is jake with you? Personally, I find that we have a whole HEAP of oil in our very own country and the Ay-rabs can keep their oil and go back to living in tents in their f-ing oil fields and starve. Or let Allah send them manna from heaven or whatever. BUT keeping ANWR oil in the ground is doing nothing but playing into the hands of the Saudi and other Ay-rab terrorists by handing them HEAPS of our money to buy weapons with which to attack us. That's defense? Get real.
401 posted on 11/05/2002 4:53:26 PM PST by dcwusmc
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