Ten Reasons to Vote for Libertarians

http://www.votenorman.org ^ | ?/?/2002 | Clarence Young

[winner45]

Ten Reasons to Vote for Libertarians

....even if you don’t like them!

1..Libertarians understand that freedom requires responsibility. Freedom can be denied to those who harm others or the property of others.

2..Libertarians ALWAYS vote against tax increases and ALWAYS vote for freedom.

3..Libertarians understand that freedom and equality go hand in hand. Your freedom to live as you please is given to you by the same authority which gives freedom to the persons who may have different lifestyles. You have to give them their freedom to do that to obtain your freedom.

4..Your freedom is not given by the Constitution. It is given from a higher power. Libertarians understand that the Constitution merely sets it down on paper.

5..Libertarians understand that God is of libertarian spirit. He gave humanity free will. He could have just as easily made humanity incapable of free choice. It is kind of arrogant for government to deny the freedom that God Himself has given. When the Israelites wanted a king, God was offended. Laws by man are petty and inferior.

6..If you are unhappy with both Democrats and Republicans, register your unhappiness with a vote for a Libertarian. If a Libertarian got 30% of the vote, it would scare the pants off of the ruling class. They would become more receptive to reason.

7..Libertarians understand that a good society is built upon hard working individuals doing their best in a responsible way. It seems that the ruling parties think that a good society is built upon government group efforts wherein people work (shirk) together.

8..Libertarians understand that the Bill of Rights is as relevant and crucially important today as it was over 200 years ago. Libertarians even think that our government should start observing it once more.

9..Libertarians realize that freedom has many limitations. The winners of elections do not have the right to lord the will of the majority over the rights of the minorities.

10..Libertarians are the only political people that believe that 98% of our citizens are morally good enough and intelligent enough to run their own lives. Basic laws are there to protect us from the other 2%.

[dfwgator]

I don't vote for Republicans, I vote against Democrats. And the best way to vote against Democrats is to vote Republican.

[headsonpikes]

"Lock anybody up who sells drugs to minors!"

And, I suppose, pin medals on the MFers on the Government payroll who administer mind-altering drugs to non-conforming children.

[wimpycat]

Is "slander" Constitutional? I thought Libertarians were all about free speech. I don't think the word "slander" occurs in the Constitution.

[seanc623]

Great job! People need to see this and understand the true value of their vote.

[FreeReign]

You hit the nail on the head. If the nanny-state would disappear we wouldn't have an illegal alien problem. Those that do come here would be productive and create jobs, just like the American dream.

Even if the nanny-state does disappear, the people of this sovereign country still have the right to control the borders.

[Lurking2Long]

Thank you very much!

Good kitty!

[Cincinatus]

Life is also about getting want you want,

No, it's about pursuing what you want. Your way of putting it could be construed as a very selfish attitude.

what Republican has "reflected" these broad values as of lately?

Tom Delay, for one. President Bush hasn't done too bad so far, although he's hampered by a very liberal Senate.

Keep voting for that magical majority then.

Thanks. I will.

Know what's going to happen? The slow death of this nation, as the Republicans morph into Democrats and the Democrats will be out and out left-wingers.

As far as I'm concerned, the Democrats already ARE out and out left-wingers. And right now, only the GOP can muster enough of a political force to counter them. If you have problems with their tactics, get involved and change the party, rather than aligning yourself with a bunch of self-indulgent flakes who've never ran or created anything.

[spodbox]

So if I voted for a republican that loses anyway, does that mean I still threw away my vote?

The only way one can throw away his vote is if he doesn't vote at all.

Also, I prefer to vote FOR someone, not AGAINST someone else. Isn't that what the definition of "representative" is supposed to be?

[Lurking2Long]

"Abuse" (read "truth") hurts, don't it?

[Onelifetogive]

I really wish this thread would get yanked, as it is an attempt by a Liberal Dimocrat infiltrator to divert votes from the Republicans.

Whoa there!!!

I wouldn't be interested in a discussion site that does not allow dissent (i.e. DemocraticUnderground.) I am here because these discussions make us better informed.

I would strongly support the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party with one caveat (The governments role is to protect innocent life...)

Let's look at the numbers. We are about 40% GOP, 40% Rat, 5% Lib, 15% other(Green, Communistm, Taxpayer, Constitution, Independent, etc.) To have some real power on their own the Lib's need to become about 35%-40%. If they operate within the Republican Party (where they would find many of us receptive to their ideas) They would need to be about 50% of 50% of the country (i.e. Half of a more powerful Republican party.)

I am deeply Christian pro-life, but I could be convinced the drug prohibition is no more effective that liquor prohibition (if the facts supported it). I can definitely accept that the Federal Government is too big and too intrusive.

Libertarians believe that governments role is protection of the individual. We would have to argue about who all is contained in "the individual." (The unborn, illegal aliens, criminals...)

If Lib's want to make changes, they could be a serious force in the GOP, if they simply want to have their own little fiefdom, totally in charge, federal matching money, etc with no effect, they should go it alone.

[mlo]

1. You've thrown away your vote on a candidate who will never be elected.

This is a silly criticism. Voting is not a game and you don't get a prize for voting for the winner. When you vote you register YOUR choice. It is never "thrown away".

[TBP]

Nice directing everyone to your inane post. All life is a compromise. I've never encountered any candidate who reflects all my "values" -- but I have found some that reflect most of what I believe in broad terms.

But you should try to hold out for candidates of whatever party who will move the ball in our direction. Those who move the ball in the otehr direction, whatever their party label, are putting points on the other side's board.

The GOP tends to be on my side of things -- not always, but usually.

No, generally they don't. When Republicans are in charge, they continue to make government bigger, more expensive, and more intrusive. The Republicans refuse to do anything about open borders because they pander to the Hispanics just like the Dimmycraps do. They refuse to do anything about abortion because they are afraid to do it -- and many of them don't believe in the pro-life view anyway. The Republican Party has moved the ball in the other team's direction on $5 billion in new aid for so-called "developing countries; tariffs for steel; McVain's campaign finance deform act; the so-called stimulus package, which was nothing but massive new spending; a massive new (unconstitutional) Federal education bill, and it didn't even have vouchers or any school choice provisions but allows the Federal government to pick "good" and "bad" schools; a Palestinian state; Affirmative Action; refusing to acknowledge that Saudi Arabia, the home of Osama and 13 of the 19 hijackers, is an enemy; a massive new Federal initiative to "improve early childhood education for millions of America's youngest children"; NAFTA and GATT; "ballistic fingerprinting"; and so many other issues. What have they done to move the ball in our direction, other than a miniscule, temporary, and insignificant tax cut?

[passport2]

No flame -- just an observation. One reason NOT to vote Libertarian:

1. You've thrown away your vote on a candidate who will never be elected


This is correct only when you consider an election in the same way you look at a horse race. If your horse doesn't finish first you lose. Would you vote for a liberal if it were obvious your conservative candidate couldn't win?

Your sentiment is the hallmark of an unprincipled voter.

[strela]

10. They'll go on hunger strike if you don't. And by jiminy, they mean it this time!

9. Vin Suprynowicz needs a new pair of shoes. And a new car. And a new house. And a new schtick ...

8. Its high time for a Cheech and Chong revival in this country anyway.

7. Hey, we elected Clinton, didn't we?

6. We will all be able to sit around together and watch that magical National Vote Total click over from 0.3 to 0.31!

5. A chicken in every pot and a tactical nuke in every basement.

4. Because arrogant, smirking moral superiority should be rewarded in all its guises.

3. Because if everybody walks around smoking a blunt, it'll really, really annoy the health nazis.

2. Because they'll all go up the river for tax evasion anyway.

1. That little vein on Noam Chomsky's forehead will finally stop throbbing.

[TBP]

Why? So we can lose slowly? Because that is the Republican strategy.

[Tall_Texan]

Libertarians allow me to vote for something else when I can't stand the Republican that's running or there is no Republican running. After all, half a conservative is better than none at all.

But, other than that, they are of little use. And if the race were close, I'd still hold my nose and vote for the candidate most likely to beat the Democrat.

BTW, about point one. I hear Libertarians talk about freedom all the time. But responsibility??? When, oh, when have they ever talked about responsibility?

I think Libertarians are the sort that would love to have a liquor store on an Indian reservation then deny that they were to blame in any way for the Indians becoming alcoholics.

[dead]

Until you can show me where one Libertarian has ever advocated "free drugs" (or anything else "free" from the government), I'm going to have to accept Dead Corpse's "Idiot" diagnosis of you as a fact.

Sorry, but you've earned it.

[jmstein7]

That's a hard point to prove, since the Republicans haven't been "in charge" since the 50s. I don't consider five months of power sharing in the beginning of 2001 being "in charge".

[Naspino]

Why? So we can lose slowly? Because that is the Republican strategy.

There is such a thing as falling back and regrouping. The Democrats are killing both Republicans and Libertarians who have many of the same goals. Now is the time for the weaker Libertarian contingent to recognize the strength of the Republicans and use it. We could potentially have control of the senate without obstruction in 2004; at that point the DNC will be in full retreat.

[Mr. Bungle]

"1. You've thrown away your vote on a candidate who will never be elected."

I'm voting Libertarian wherever the Republican is a lock; to vote Republican, in that case, would be a wasted vote.