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US Ignoring Marijuana Research
Sun News ^ | 14 September 2002 | Bruce Mirken

Posted on 09/15/2002 8:38:29 AM PDT by JediGirl

Early in the morning of Sept. 5, dozens of armed men stormed a respected medical facility where nearly 300 people desperately ill from cancer, AIDS and other illnesses got their medicine. Brandishing semiautomatic weapons in the faces of terrified patients, including a woman paralyzed from childhood polio, they destroyed all of the medicine and took prisoner the facility's operators.

The work of Osama bin Laden? Hamas? Some other international terrorists?

No. This particular terrorist raid was carried out by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

The facility they attacked was the Wo/Men's Alliance for Medical Marijuana ( WAMM ) in Santa Cruz, Calif. A co-op run entirely by and for seriously ill people - 80 percent of whom have terminal diagnoses - WAMM sold nothing. All of the medical marijuana grown was given to members without charge.

The facility was supported by the community and worked closely with local officials. According to County Supervisor Mardi Wormhoudt, WAMM operated in an "exemplary" fashion. After the raid - which had been planned and executed with no warning to the local government - Wormhoudt told reporters she was "appalled" by the DEA's action.

The patients WAMM served are desperately ill. For many with AIDS or cancer, marijuana is the only thing that allows them to tolerate the horrendous side effects of the harsh treatments that keep them alive. Others endure excruciating pain that conventional medicines have failed to relieve, but which marijuana helps.

Because of this raid, many of these people will die prematurely - agonizing, horrible deaths - because the only medicine that helped them has been taken away.

What could possibly motivate such cruelty?

Desperation.

All around the world, governments and scientific experts are coming to believe that marijuana shouldn't be illegal - that it is simply not dangerous enough to warrant arresting and jailing even social or recreational users, much less people using it to relieve symptoms of cancer or AIDS. The British government has already moved to make marijuana possession a nonarrestable offense.

On Sept. 4, Canada's Senate Special Committee on Illegal Drugs released the most exhaustive investigation of marijuana data and policy options ever conducted by any government. The 650-page report declared that criminalizing marijuana amounted to "throwing taxpayers' money down the drain in a crusade that is not warranted by the danger posed by the substance."

But marijuana - which accounts for the vast majority of illegal drug use and arrests - is the engine that drives the war on drugs and keeps massive drug-control budgets pumped up.

So even as DEA agents were shoving machine guns in the faces of sick people, White House drug czar John Walters and Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson stood in front of a Washington, D.C., press conference, spouting long-discredited myths as if they were proven facts.

Marijuana, said Thompson, is "a clear and present danger to the health and well-being of all its users" - a statement contradicted by reams of scientific research.

Indeed, in 1995, the prestigious medical journal The Lancet stated flatly, "The smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health." This year, the British government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs and the Canadian Senate committee came to similar conclusions after extensive study.

But our government's drug war ideologues don't care about science. And they don't care how many sick people they literally torture to death in their desperate effort to pump up a collapsing policy.


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To: Ken H
Are you making the point that possessing mj is against the law but smoking mj is not?

You catch on quick, Sparky...

361 posted on 09/15/2002 7:18:02 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: AntiGuv
I simply pulled up the list of 29,000+ Florida inmates serving time for drug offenses...

Yet failed to list ONE that had been imprisoned for smoking pot.

Are you thick - or what?

362 posted on 09/15/2002 7:20:27 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Oh, it's OK, I don't really care what you think anymore. Any latecomers to this discussion can refer back to post #330 should your intentional ignorance cause even a moment of confusion.

And, to ask for the names of people imprisoned for "smoking pot" is to ask for the names of people imprisoned for simple possession. There's no other way in which one can answer that question legitimately. In other words, this guy is in prison only because pot is illegal, and for no other reason.

Just for the hell of it, though, here's another name: Gary Batcheller serving a prison sentence of two years for simple possession of marijuana with no associated offense.

Yeah, yeah. I've yet to name even one imprisoned for smoking pot, blah blah blah, whatever. Save it for someone who gives a damn about what the definition of "is" is....

363 posted on 09/15/2002 7:42:58 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: Libloather
Guess what? You're still wrong...Sparky. These following activities associated with a "nervous system stimulant or depressant or a hallucinogen" are all illegal under Florida statutory law and I'm sure illegal in a number of other states as well:

1. Use in amounts that create a hazard to the user's health or the safety of the community;

2. Diverted from legal channels and distributed through illegal channels; or

3. Taken on the user's own initiative rather than on the basis of professional medical advice.
364 posted on 09/15/2002 7:48:10 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: ChadGore
It's amazing the hemp heads ignore what drugs has done to Columbia today.

It's amazing how many $#!# heads ignore the fact that it is the war on drugs that destroyed Columbia...

Coffee is legal... do people in Columbia die at that hands of coffee cartels? Duh!

365 posted on 09/15/2002 7:57:53 PM PDT by Critter
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To: AntiGuv
...a "nervous system stimulant or depressant or a hallucinogen"

Are you describing pot? (Hang in there, Bubbaloo. Your answers will be used to sink other Liberteens...)

366 posted on 09/15/2002 8:05:51 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: AntiGuv
I've yet to name even one imprisoned for smoking pot...

Even the biggest nitwit could've figured that one out...

367 posted on 09/15/2002 8:08:13 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
I am quoting directly from the Florida general statutes and pot is classified under the scheduled substances referred to by that quotation. Classification is obviously the regulatory guideline rather than actual chemical properties.

Take alcohol for example. Alcohol is a nervous system depressant (while nicotine is a nervous system stimulant in the same class as cocaine). For whatever irrational reasons, those are not covered by provisions #1 and #3.

I would imagine that's because only the substances which the Florida state legislature chose to schedule are relevant here.

These are not subtle or nuanced issues I'm discussing here so hopefully you're following along at least a little bit...
368 posted on 09/15/2002 8:14:04 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: Libloather
Oh, I forgot to ask. What are you babbling about insofar as sinking other "Liberteens"?? (your witty little euphemism never ceases to amaze me, I should note...)
369 posted on 09/15/2002 8:17:17 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: Libloather
I'll give you this, your argument makes more sense than 99% of the other anti-pot arguments on this forum.
370 posted on 09/15/2002 8:33:19 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Libloather; AntiGuv
serious question to anyone who'll answer: if marijuana is found in your system, can you get prison time, have to go to treatment, etc?
371 posted on 09/15/2002 9:35:44 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
The only circumstance I can imagine that they would test you is if you're driving under the influence or if you're committing another crime, in which case the first is a DUI (just like alcohol or whatever) and the second is an aggravating factor which usually increases the penalty. The other circumstance is if you're already undergoing drug monitoring under probation guidelines, in which case the actual offense would be violation of probation.

Otherwise, I do not believe there is a legal penalty for testing positive in a drug test for, say, employment or other similar reasons. However, I will ask tomorrow and get back with you at least in regards to the statutes in New York & North Carolina (I can get those two answered quickest).
372 posted on 09/15/2002 9:56:43 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv
Thanks. Just Freepmail me :P
373 posted on 09/15/2002 10:27:05 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
My friends son, is on Probation. If he tests "dirty", he goes back into Rehab, and his probabtion time is extended. (Arkansas)

Marijuana is considered in the "dirty testing". He cannot get a job. Most major Stores, like Home Depot, Lowes, Target, etc., who might have hired him even to do the heavy lifting off of some truck, won't touch him...it's against the company rules.

He's been in drug Rehab at least three times (a joke) and still can't stay away from the stuff...he's 22.

If he fails to come in on the day they call him up for testing, it counts as the same thing as testing "dirty". Then he goes before the Judge, and the judge decides what to do with him.

He's just another Pot Head...sad.

sw

375 posted on 09/16/2002 6:18:06 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Hm...I think that putting somebody into rehab for weed is like putting somebody into rehab for smoking cigarettes.
376 posted on 09/16/2002 8:30:48 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
Trust me, there are plenty of cigarette smoking addicts who would "welcome" the chance to get into Rehab to "kick the habit".

Only difference is, I've never known of someone lighting up with Mr. Joe Camel getting "high".

Weed does make a person "high" doesn't it? So it's about the same as being drunk? Under the influence, to say the least.

I mean it when I say..What you do with your own body is YOUR choice. If I had to do it all over again, I never would have taken that first "drag" on a Kool. Others, would have never taken that first drink.

But you, girl, are young, and you are still at the stage in your life where you feel your body won't betray you...but it will, eventually.

I understand.

sw

377 posted on 09/16/2002 8:42:39 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
I think my body won't betray me? Ha! I may have an irregular heartbeat (will have to go for tests to check), have blacked out many times, i have ulcers, gastric reflux problems, and have to soon go for a bone density test to make sure I don't have any problems with osteoporosis. I know what it is to wish I were dead because I felt like complete shit. I definitely know what it is to have a body that betrays you because of the stupid stuff one does. And I claim complete responsibility for it.
378 posted on 09/16/2002 10:36:52 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
Ouch...I AM sorry to hear that, JG..I'm not so sure that at your young age, you should claim complete responsibility for your problems. Although, it shows a great deal of maturity to do so.

My age is another thing. I've seen what the excesses of drinking, smoking, eating wrong, etc., have done to myself and others. Like you, I took responsibility for it myself...bad choices.

It's never too late to get "healthy", in fact, it presents a whole new challenge.

You have to understand, JD...I see you on a mission in life to legalize pot, which as we all know, is easy to obtain anyway. It's another habit I don't need, but it should stop the illegal drug flow across our borders and make money for the government. (I am not an advocate, just saying it's probably time they did).

It's seems such a waste of a good mind and ambition to throw yourself into this goal, when your persistance and talents could be used elsewhere.

Be well...sw

379 posted on 09/16/2002 11:14:05 AM PDT by spectre
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To: Freedom4UsAll; kcvl
I wish you'd known me when I was alive, I was a funny feller. The crowd would hoot and holler for more. I wore a drunk's red nose for applause. Oh yes, I was a comical priest "with a joke for the flock and a hand up your fleece." Down the cardboard front of my dirty dog-collar.

Ah some EC fans.

Insert "Drooling the drink, the lipstick and greasepaint" before "Down the cardboard front ..."

380 posted on 09/16/2002 11:52:12 AM PDT by dread78645
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