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To: JMack
Here is what I see. I don't give a damn about the interview, or whether it is staged, practiced or whatever. Probably, but who cares, this is politics. Personally I'd like a stony cold president in public, but that's me.

As would I, so long as he honors the principles of limited government and individual rights.

The only thing which matters to me is who our President is when the cameras are off. You seem to think he is the same as Clinton. If that is so, I will not be the last to tell you, you have a lot of learning to do before you will be an astute judge of character.

You are projecting here. I was poking ridicule at the simpletons who are swooned off their feet because he "shed a tear." That reminds me of the Clinton hearthrobs who could see no wrong in their man.

One question. A little boy walks up to the President with a picture of his missing father, a firefighter in the WTC. Do you think Bush would be sad about that after the cameras went off, and he was home alone? Would Clinton? Would Bush look on it as an opportunity to hit on the mother? Would Clinton?

No question about it. Bush would be genuinely touched and Clinton would opportunize it. However, that is not the context in which this thread started.

Two different people, both in and out of the camera. If you can't see that, don't assume the rest of us will be interested in your assessment of people's character in the future.

Frankly, I seriously doubt that either you, nor I, have much insight into the character of Mr. Bush. Modern presidents are so protected and shielded from the public, and their contact so highly managed, that we see what the consultants and handlers want us to see. There are people who are members of the Bush circle who know him and have the information necessary to judge his character. None of those people post on this forum.

And for the record, I'm registered independant, with Libertarian views. Bush isn't "my boy", and we disagree on as much as we agree on. I just like him because I think he's a decent guy.

And, for the record, I'm registered Republican and have voted straight ticket in every election until the most recent. I neither like, nor dislike, Bush. I don't know Bush. I know that there are many Bush policies that I find abhorrent, and some that I favor a great deal. Nevertheless, as I've already stated, my original comments were intended to tweek those infatuated with Bush, much like the Clinton drones were, not to demean Bush himself. I don't expect the hard core Bush fanatics to understand that distinction, but it exists and is relevant.

62 posted on 09/10/2002 9:55:10 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Jolly Rodgers
"As would I, so long as he honors the principles of limited government and individual rights."

Jolly, I don't think too many of us see GWB as perfect, far from it. I feel as you do about the above. But after reflection, what is his solution, at this point? Can you speculate, for example, on what would happen if he dumped Ashcroft? This would split the Republican ranks and be an occasion of glee for the democrats, and give terrorists the possible impression that the government is falling apart. It would be possible, of course, to back off on some of the more extreme stuff that's been announced, and that seems to have already happened, to a degree.

Bush,along with others in his adminstration, have made some unfortunate choices, imho, but he has to make do with what he has, like the rest of us. BTW,this is all just a big CBS ploy to grab ratings. Listen to the UN speech Thursday. That's the one that will really count.

119 posted on 09/10/2002 10:42:33 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Jolly Rodgers
I don't know Bush.

Very, very true statement. Well, he's been in office going on 2 years now. Just when do you think you will finally get a read on this man. Most of us did so during the elections. Yet some get more attention by trashing any leader.

Bush really doesn't care whether you think he is an actor or not, he doesn't really care if you like him or not. Neither do I.

258 posted on 09/11/2002 5:03:06 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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