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To: tdadams
I'd be really interested in hearing your definition of socialist. I'd also be interested in knowing how many of these supposedly 'socialist' countries you've actually been to.

Are you suggesting now that Germany is not socialist? That it does not have a strong undercurrent of anti-Americanism? Switzerland? The Netherlands? Denmark? Sweden? Norway? Finland? The list continues. I've not only visited extensively in all of them, but also lived in two of them for extended periods. One of my life's greatest regrets was witnessing the disaster legalization brought to Amsterdam. In 10 years Amsterdam's Mexico City Bar, where Camus' novel "The Fall" was located, went from a good-natured meeting place for ideas and Bohemians to a free-fire zone. Now all the writers belong to the State. Spin, Camus, spin. Freedom? Uh-huh, freedom to be dependent on Mommy Government.

351 posted on 09/24/2002 11:54:57 AM PDT by Whilom
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To: Whilom
You're looking through some seriously filtered lenses then, because I've seen the typical WODdie hysteria about Amsterdam to be mostly a myth.

I suppose you favor the more ardent drug-intolerant countries like Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, who, oh yeah, also happen to be very anti-American.

Choosing between to two extremes, I'll take the civilized and peaceful people of Europe over the vitriolic warmongering people in the Middle East, who happen to share your attitude about drugs (among other things most likely).

352 posted on 09/24/2002 12:02:34 PM PDT by tdadams
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