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To: rintense
Even Rush has challenged listeners to tell him what freedoms they have lost since 9-11. No takers to my knowledge.

We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and wave good-bye to our loved ones as they leave out on an aircraft. We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and not be searched without probable cause. We have all lost the right to have a simple private telephone conversation. Would this suffice?.

True, the US did fund the Afghanis in the war with Russia. And yes, Osama was a part of that. But we certainly didn't make him into the monster he is. That sounds like the standard liberal 'oh blame society for his actions' crap. I blame Osama, and Osama alone for his actions.

Actually, the US funded the Taliban of which Osama was part of at that time. We also funded and armed Saddam in his war against Iran just about the same timeframe.

I would be glad to hang blame on the person(s) who undertook 9/11, I just happen not to believe the federal government's version in absence of supporting evidence.

---max

668 posted on 08/29/2002 9:22:17 PM PDT by max61
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To: max61
"Actually, the US funded the Taliban of which Osama was part of at that time"

WRONG... We supported the Mojahadeen (sp?) The Taliban didn't exist when Afghanistan was fighting the Soviets. I believe the Taliban was formed in the mid 90's with the backing of the Pakistani's

683 posted on 08/29/2002 9:27:42 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: max61
We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and wave good-bye to our loved ones as they leave out on an aircraft. We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and not be searched without probable cause. We have all lost the right to have a simple private telephone conversation. Would this suffice?.

You have no "right" to wave bye-bye. You have the "right" not to be searched but you do not have a "right" to board an aircraft when you have refused. You have NO expectation of privacy on an open source communication device especially cell and cordless phones. In other words you wouldn't know a "right" if you lost it.

685 posted on 08/29/2002 9:28:20 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: max61
We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and wave good-bye to our loved ones as they leave out on an aircraft. We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and not be searched without probable cause. We have all lost the right to have a simple private telephone conversation. Would this suffice?.

No, because not every airport allowed families and friends to the gates to begin with. It isn't your right at all- it's the right of the airport to set forth rules that are in the interest of public safety. Do I have a right to park in front of the airport? As for the searching, I don't know about you, but random searches happened (albeit less frequently) before 9-11. Everytime I have flown since 9-11, I have been asked if I would mind being searched. No one has been thrown down and forced to submit to a search, though it would be interesting to see what would happen if someone said no. But you do have the choice to refuse. You also have the choice to drive. Or take a train.

And for the phone calls, a bit paranoid, don't ya think? Last time I checked, the patriot act allowed listening in on terrorist suspects. If you are not plotting to kill Americans then you have nothing to worry about.

696 posted on 08/29/2002 9:32:01 PM PDT by rintense
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To: max61
We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and wave good-bye to our loved ones as they leave out on an aircraft. We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and not be searched without probable cause.

You mean, all this time when I've been going to NFL games and concerts, I should have raised a stink and ranted about my civil rights when they tried to check my bag at the turnstile? [Hits self in head.] That darn Bush!

700 posted on 08/29/2002 9:34:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: max61
We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and wave good-bye to our loved ones as they leave out on an aircraft. We have all lost the right to walk into an airport and not be searched without probable cause. We have all lost the right to have a simple private telephone conversation. Would this suffice?.

You forgot - we have all lost the right to carry bombs on board to take down the plane and kill Americans.

We have all lost the right to have Arabs hijack our planes and kill us with them at their whim, at a time of their choosing whether we want to die or not.

We have also lost the right to expect our government to be able to prevent bioweapons attacks, nuclear attacks, terrorist attacks.

1,686 posted on 09/02/2002 10:46:09 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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