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Should we trust George W. Bush?
World Net Daily ^ | 8/29/02 | Harry Browne

Posted on 08/29/2002 1:00:30 PM PDT by feelin_poorly

Shortly after 9-11, TV talk-show host Sean Hannity said, "Thank God, we have an honest man in the White House!"

And when you think about it, a great deal of what you might believe about the so-called War on Terrorism is based on statements from George W. Bush. You have only his word, or that of someone in his administration:

Since America is endangered by the "you're either with me or against me" tactics of the Bush administration, it becomes vital to know whether we can trust the man in charge of our government.

The record

So does George Bush's record inspire confidence in his honesty?

Unfortunately, this is the same man who has referred to trillions of dollars in budget surpluses – even though the federal government hasn't had a budget surplus since 1956. (The appearance of any "surpluses" was created by taking excess receipts from Social Security and applying them to the general budget, even as the politicians swore they were protecting Social Security.)

Mr. Bush even has the chutzpah to refer with a straight face (well not exactly a straight face, he loves to smirk) to corporate executives "cooking the books." He neglects to mention that many of the corporate bookkeeping methods the politicians are so incensed about today were motivated by rules imposed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

And George Bush is the same man who in 2000 said he believed in "limited government." Most people assumed he meant a government limited by the Constitution. In fact, he took an oath in which he swore to uphold the Constitution.

But he's violated virtually every one of the first 10 Amendments – especially the Ninth and 10th Amendments, which are meant to impose precise limits on his power.

So his belief in "limited government" apparently means government limited to what he wants to do.

George Bush is the same man who in one breath tries to ingratiate himself with you by saying, "It's your money, not the politicians' money" – but in the next breath, he says he's entitled to one third of "your money."

George Bush is the same man who said he has learned more about political philosophy from Jesus of Nazareth than from anyone else. But he's proven by his actions that he doesn't really believe such things as "Blessed are the peacemakers." And "the meek" who Jesus said would inherit the earth are in Mr. Bush's eyes really just "collateral damage" in his plans to tell the world how it must live.

Is honesty important?

In these and in so many other ways, George Bush has proven that he's not an honest man – and that we shouldn't trust him with the safety of America.

In fact, Thomas Jefferson understood that we shouldn't put our trust in any politician. He said we should bind them down from mischief "by the chains of the Constitution." And a truly honest man wouldn't even ask you to trust him.

Contrary to what you might have thought, this isn't an article about George Bush. It's an article about you. Are you going to demean yourself by putting your faith in a man who has done so much to demonstrate the folly of such faith?

Are you going to let politicians stampede you into throwing away the Bill of Rights, based on "evidence" you never see, reassured by politicians who have proven that the truth is secondary to their own ambitions?

Don't you have enough respect for your own mind to make your own decisions, refuse to accept conclusions without evidence, and be something better than a cheerleader for a politician or a political party?


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To: MJY1288
Why???? Why is that so surprising to you all? You all know my sense of humor! He lobbed me a softball and I swatted it!
721 posted on 08/29/2002 9:41:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You mean, all this time when I've been going to NFL games and concerts, I should have raised a stink and ranted about my civil rights when they tried to check my bag at the turnstile? [Hits self in head.] That darn Bush!

Bend over, it appears you prefer that position.

---max

722 posted on 08/29/2002 9:41:57 PM PDT by max61
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To: VaBthang4
All those who agree....please bump.

Oh I figured that out from her first post .. scary isn't she??

BUMP!!!!

723 posted on 08/29/2002 9:42:16 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: nunya bidness
If we attack Iraq it won't be vaporized, The country will still be there but under different rule, The Russians know this and so does the rest of the world. We will not take over their oil fields nor will we run their country, We will just remove the cancer that lives there
724 posted on 08/29/2002 9:42:58 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: max61
end over, it appears you prefer that position.

Cool it dirt bag.

725 posted on 08/29/2002 9:43:06 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Oh go ahead .. get drunk .. you only turn 21 once

Enjoy .. have fun .. let down your hair and have fun
726 posted on 08/29/2002 9:43:20 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: nunya bidness
That maybe true, but lessening our dependence is huge. ANWAR would help (not solve it). The problem and oil purchases is that we also pay big bucks to refine the oil- and that's what costs the most. If we could refine the oil here in the States...

Stopping oil from Iraq and Saudi Arabia would put a dent in the US oil supply, but wouldn't cripple it. We also rely a great deal on other countries- including South American countries for oil, who could easily step up production. I'm not saying they could cover the loss, but it certainly wouldn't be as big a mess as some would have us believe if we told SA and Iraq to take a hike- and shove their oil too.

727 posted on 08/29/2002 9:44:03 PM PDT by rintense
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To: terilyn
: )
728 posted on 08/29/2002 9:44:03 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Mo1
I don't believe that getting drunk is morally right.

Nothing will stop me from having some drinks though, but I won't get drunk.

729 posted on 08/29/2002 9:44:47 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: VaBthang4
thumper bump
730 posted on 08/29/2002 9:45:02 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: VaBthang4
A booga booga bump!
731 posted on 08/29/2002 9:45:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You've got mail. :)
732 posted on 08/29/2002 9:45:31 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: rintense
And for the phone calls, a bit paranoid, don't ya think?

Oh I think after listening to a few calls with my mother .. they'll reget that soon enough ..

733 posted on 08/29/2002 9:45:37 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: VaBthang4
Tin foil - hate America Bump!
734 posted on 08/29/2002 9:45:43 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: MJY1288; KentuckyWoman
"...Would you mind backing this statement up..."

If you aren't willing to believe the Truth provided by anyone up here - why are you even asking for "Proof". You (or any other Bushling) would not want to believe it, if it slapped your Mother in the face....

She, rightly so, called some Shrub-follower 'numbnutz' (trust me, she knows insults with words that would make you have to go back home and look up) and I am beginning to think that several more Freepers may be in line for that handle (Much Too Numerous To List, the guilty know who they are....).

I have been posting with this Lady for far longer that anyone up here will be able to remember and she has YET to post anything that has is untrue - unlike a multitude of others who seem to be capable of only knowing the last thought of the last person that spoke to them.

So, if anything that she has posted has hurt anyone's pweecoss whittle fweewins, then as far as I am concerned all of you have three choices:
1) - Get Over It (and Yourselves);
2) - Live With It (and watch and pray that her darkest fears are brought to life - by GW or whomever else his follower(s) may be));
......or.....
3) - Die With It

I refuse to don anything fire retardent - as anything that anyone can even think about saying against her, or myself, will be as meaningless as the majority of the 'Anti-Anti-Bush' Rhetoric that has been slathered up here so far today.

Here is only ONE item that can back up her statement - completely Tin-Foil-Free...all for EWE....

DEFINING TYRANNY DOWN:
BUSH AND THE STEROID-ENHANCED FBI

By: Paul Fallavollita

Those who foolishly trust that George W. Bush is a "conservative" should consider the latest action of the Bush Administration—the FBI has been given expanded powers to conduct domestic intelligence gathering. A complement to the unprecedented powers given them by the USA Patriot Act passed by Congress, FBI agents may now penetrate political groups and churches as well as library records and the Internet. Sans the 22nd Amendment, the American people might have foolishly handed Clinton a third term, but at least there would have been more resistance to the coming police state.

Bush said, "The FBI needed to change. It was an organization full of fine people who loved America but the organization didn't meet the times." Whenever anyone in government declares that there is a need to "meet the times," true conservatives should take it as a warning signal that a thinly disguised wolf prowls amongst the sheep.

By busily encouraging criticism of the FBI’s handling of the information about al-Qaeda activities in American flight schools relayed by the Phoenix Memorandum, Bush deflects the impact of his prior knowledge of 9/11. Bush really knows how to turn lemons into lemonade, as he should, since he planted the lemon tree. Bush deliberately created any deficiencies that the pre-steroidally-enhanced FBI suffered from at its previous level of power. He actively hamstrung that agency’s ability to investigate al-Qaeda prior to 9/11. The BBC, The Guardian, and the Times of India report that a document numbered 199I WF213589 came out of the Washington FBI field office, citing "connections between the CIA and Saudi Arabia and the Bush men and bin Ladens." For political and financial reasons, namely that the Bush and bin Laden families both owned considerable stock in the Carlyle Corporation (a defense contractor), various cases investigating al-Qaeda and Saudis were closed, on orders from the top. It should be remembered that bin Laden was a CIA asset. Few in America have reported this information, besides courageous alternative websites such as Infowars.com and The Propaganda Matrix. Granting broader power to the FBI simultaneously makes the FBI look like it had been deficient in the past and advances the program of police state expansion that all governments historically embark upon—which was the main purpose of 9/11 itself. 9/11 is the updated version of Operation Northwoods with a twist worthy of The Lone Gunmen.

Ashcroft justified the Administration’s move, arguing that FBI agents "cannot surf the Web, the way you and I can." Before some of my readers begin dreamily recounting how Johnny Asscrack is a "good Christian," they should take a closer look at what he is actually saying in that quote. The Administration clearly holds the American people in contempt, because it believes that Americans are stupid enough not to see the distinction between regular citizens and paid FBI agents. Regular citizens do not have badges, guns, or the power to arrest and jail. Regular citizens talk about "surfing the web," while the paid FBI agent calls it "open source intelligence" (OSINT). Regular citizens should ask themselves if they trust what uses that OSINT will be put toward, and they should remind themselves that another Clinton, of the female variety, may one day assume a high office in the executive branch, gaining a hand in deciding the uses of OSINT.

Pete Yost’s AP article on the new FBI powers concludes with an interesting summary worth repeating:

The new rules allow agents to conduct "general topical research" and "pure surfing" designed to find Web sites, chat rooms or Internet bulletin boards with information about terror, bomb-making instructions, child pornography or stolen credit cards.

Conspicuously absent from Yost’s catalog of bogeymen: "White supremacists," "militiamen," "anti-Semites," and the like. These unlisted groups constitute the real opposition to the Administration and the New World Order, and are the true targets of the FBI’s new legal toys. Of course, these politically incorrect groups whose name dare not be spoken already receive coverage from the private political police in this country—the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). They have a long-standing arrangement of "sharing," information with the FBI and state and local law enforcement. In San Francisco, the ADL kept dossiers on citizens with the aid of police resources that they extralegally appropriated, for example. In addition, those two private "watchdog" groups pick up where official government entities must (for now) leave off: the harassment and intimidation of political opponents via the public smear, often by way of their contacts in the disproportionately Jewish and overwhelmingly liberal "mainstream" media.

Nevertheless, the media’s distraction efforts are underway. The prevailing "official," "loyal opposition" criticism of the FBI’s new powers is that J. Edgar Hoover used these same powers to spy on Martin Luther King, Jr. MLK, that plagiarist and communist sympathizer with KGB connections through the Highlander Folk School, got exactly what he deserved. Monitoring the Left and MLK’s ilk was one of the few things the FBI did right.

These days, the FBI spends its time chasing patriots on the Right. Can you imagine what the House un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) would investigate today, if it were revived? Somehow, I don’t think HUAC would pursue the entities it should—such as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). It would more likely investigate the Council of Conservative Citizens (CofCC). Today, the Establishment sees the CofCC as "the bad guys," while MLK is one of "the good guys." Bush doesn’t seem to complain about the consequences of this particular change of the times.

Of course, the elites tell us that America is the freest country on earth. Maybe they’re right, in a way, since the standard is set so low as we share the planet with Third World slave pens. The problem is that the dividing line between America and the Third World is fast disappearing. How will we know when government has finally grown too big as to be tyrannical? The criteria constantly recede, defining tyranny down. What new powers will we have to give the FBI a few years from now, when times again change as Bush said? What can we look forward to next from Big Brother (or Big Sister)?

H.R. 2977, the Space Preservation Act, indicates what may come next. It prohibits the deployment of "exotic weapons" in outer space, but says nothing about their use on the ground. H.R. 2977 thus constitutes an "authorization in reverse" for the government to use these weapons, even against its own people. These weapons include "psychotronic weapons," "chemtrails," "ultrasonic weapons," and "climate or tectonic weapons." That’s a very revealing list of the things the government has on hand (or at least plans on having), and some were probably developed at the government’s little-known Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). I’m not sure what "psychotronics" are, but the chemtrails involve spraying chemicals on a population from an aircraft, and the other weapons use sound (certain frequencies can make people nauseous), or affect the weather or the tectonic plates of the earth, causing tornadoes and earthquakes. Fun stuff that must be, but it’s too bad the regular citizens can’t hide inside a bunker at Mount Weather along with the Shadow Government when these weapons have their debut.

Have you had enough yet, America?

735 posted on 08/29/2002 9:46:01 PM PDT by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: Howlin
LOL, It still caught me by surprise, and it was hilarious
736 posted on 08/29/2002 9:46:05 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Well at Christian schools, that isn't the norm!

What .. putting out ??

Oh where have you been ..

737 posted on 08/29/2002 9:46:40 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Texasforever
And wire taps have been legal for most of the telephones history of general use. You really are a piece of work.

Wow. Thanks for the compliment. Wiretaps have been legal when authorized by a court order when the court has been presented with evidence that the target of the wiretap is involved in felonious activities. That is no longer the case. Try dealing with facts.

---max

738 posted on 08/29/2002 9:46:46 PM PDT by max61
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To: rintense; nunya bidness
I believe I saw (I think it was the Energy Department's website) the list of the top 10 oil companies who import from the Middle East. I know that Mobile was up there, along with Shell, and that I believe BP was lower on the list.
739 posted on 08/29/2002 9:47:00 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Nothing will stop me from having some drinks though, but I won't get drunk

Aren't you under the age of 21? That should stop you in most states.

740 posted on 08/29/2002 9:47:06 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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