[Dimensio]

Do you have any original thoughts that aren't inane and meaningless babble, or do you think that medved, the man who believes that Earth once orbited Saturn, is a credible source of scientific information?

[f.Christian]

Creation/God...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY...

Then came the...

SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 dumb downed crime FOOL ridden America---

[jim35]

Hmm... the Earth orbiting Saturn. Did he mean yesterday, or 5 billion years ago? Or do you believe that the Earth has always been here, since the dawn of time, orbiting our ever-existing sun? Sounds like a creationist idea to me.

[oc-flyfish]

An absolutely great source of information on creationism, evolution, and science can be found at Reasons to Believe.  I attended one of their Genesis Seminars back about 8 years ago and was totally blown away.

For those of you who want rational scientific evidence check them out.  Most of the stuff they have went totally over my head but would really connect with those who have a scientific background.