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To: yendu bwam
You brought up the state, I didn't.

like all mystics, the state, or will of God, is implicit in your argument.

YOUR will is fiat, a sort of spiritual socialism. YOU know what is best, and others better follow, or face ridicule, ostracision or excommunication.

it is much easier to criticize others than to focus on the self.

339 posted on 06/10/2002 6:19:10 PM PDT by galt-jw
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To: galt-jw
You brought up the state, I didn't. like all mystics, the state, or will of God, is implicit in your argument. YOUR will is fiat, a sort of spiritual socialism. YOU know what is best, and others better follow, or face ridicule, ostracision or excommunication. it is much easier to criticize others than to focus on the self.

Whoa there, galt-jw. I do believe in God, and I do believe that God wants us to live in a certain way. I wouldn't say that God constitutes a 'state.' And yes, I do think I know what is best, just as you do (no God, no 'state', I would guess?). But I don't impose anything on anyone. I do try to convince, when I believe others are hurting themselves. That's hardly fiat. AS I said previously, people are free to engage in any kind of sexual practices they want. I certainly have no power to stop them. Lastly, my religion requires me to focus on self every second of every day, and to try and bring that tempted and corrupted self as close to God and goodness as I can possibly get it.

342 posted on 06/10/2002 6:25:20 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: galt-jw
YOUR will is fiat, a sort of spiritual socialism. YOU know what is best, and others better follow, or face ridicule, ostracision or excommunication.

Having lived what Yendu explains, I can tell you that it is freedom he teaches. Sin is the bondage you throughly describe.

343 posted on 06/10/2002 6:27:58 PM PDT by LowOiL
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