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I think your comment suggesting these kids are on their way to becoming prostitutes is small, gratuitous, and inaccurate. Were you never a teenager? Or were you a goody-two-shoes who never ever did anything other than exactly what your parents told you?

Of course I was a teenager. My parents, just like their parents did with them, tried to instill in me that sex is wrong before marriage PERIOD. That's what I am telling my daughter, too. She will know that she doesn't owe these guys anything for "rite of passage".
As far as small and gratuitous, well, like I said, I didn't mean to be cruel and I meant it with all due respect to your thoughts. Innacurate? That's your opinion, but I have known a few prostitutes and that fits to a "T" how they think.

I will pray that your own daughters do "have their heads on straight" about it as I know that peer pressure can be hard.

She will know that she doesn't owe these guys anything for "rite of passage".

That's exactly right. My daughter owes nothing of the sort to any boy - and ESPECIALLY to any boy who would seek to take advantage of her that way.

As I suggested in my earlier post, we have talked with our daughters about this at length, and I believe they understand that premarital sex is wrong and that they do not need to give in to any peer or other pressure. It's not easy. At least they are open enough with us to tell us what's going on and what their friends are thinking and sometimes doing. The 'rite of passage' comment was a reference to comments from their private school friends where it's something of a 'sophomore event' if girls haven't already. These kids walk a fine line, with academics, sports, music and all of the normal things teens want to do, and you're right, it's not easy bring up teens these days, especially in our affluent suburb where many kids have more weekly spending money that many people earn in a week.